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The results are clearly far more democratic than what we see in the west as I've already explained above. By any measure you choose, Chinese government does a far better job representing the interests of the working majority than any western government. But you keep on thinking that your system is superior.

Imagine not being able to see what an utter disaster this offensive is after 4 weeks.

They're literally using mass wave attacks, and if Russia actually did that they would've lost a long time ago. Even western propagandists now admit that this offensive has stalled.

Here's how things were supposed to go https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18/ukraine-russia-war-counteroffensive-attack-bakhmut-himars/

Ukraine was supposed to make a major breakthrough in the first 24 hours, and that was crucial for sustaining the momentum for this offensive. We're now into week 4 of the offensive, and Ukraine failed to even reach the first line of defence. They're still in the gray zone.

Now CNN openly admits that the offensive isn't meeting expectations https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/ukraine-counteroffensive-western-assessment/index.html

ISW writes that Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate their tactics for future operations. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-18-2023

It's an unmitigated disaster, but you evidently live in an alternate reality guzzling state propaganda that your regime churns out. 😂

The government can pass laws in the UK, unpopular ones mean they get voted out

You once again show a simplistic understanding of how your own political system works. The two parties you have that have a chance of wining are Conservatives and Labour. Both parties consistently pass policy that's hostile towards the working majority and benefits the oligarchs, yet it's pretty much impossible for an alternative party to get into power. The fact that you get to choose between two turds doesn't make your system democratic. It's an illusion of choice and it's clearly enough to convince a lot of you that you have some sort of power.

The way people get elected into your government is by having election campaigns, and these need a lot of funding. So the people the government actually answers to are the ones who pay for these campaign. That's who gets represented in practice, and that's why there is a continuous wealth transfer to the top that's happening.

What’s the process for the Chinese people?

Voting, when a candidate doesn't do what they got voted in to do then they get voted out. Having a single party or multiple parties is completely tangential to that. However, since Chinese system isn't based around having huge campaign funds, it makes it possible for regular working class people to actually participate in politics.

Such as? You just through insults without explaining what you mean. You do realise the Soviet Union collapsed for economic reasons?

Such as cost of living going up, and people not being able to afford basic necessities. Energy and food prices are going up a we speak. UK has runaway inflation, and will absolutely hit recession by next year. People will start defaulting on their debts and that will feed into the financial system where banks end up holding bad debt. And it's not just me saying these things, here's what FP has to say https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/03/britain-worse-off-1970s/

If you hate the west and genuinely think China is a democratic communist country, why don’t you move there?

I can only assume that you've never actually moved to a different country and don't understand how difficult it is. I would absolutely love to move to China, but it's just not that easy to uproot your life and move half way across the world.

Or are you just incapable of taking any action to remedy the problems in your life that’s resulted in your frankly absurd views on western culture

I am taking action such as learning Mandarin, it's a hard language and I'm still not fluent in it after over a year of studying. So, yeah eventually I will leave the shithole country I live in currently, but it's a difficult process that takes time. The fact that you don't understand that once again underscores your lack of capacity for critical thought.

It's hard to say what he was thinking to be honest. I can't imagine why he'd think Putin would support him, or what he was really aiming to achieve. The whole thing seems incoherent.

So, you’re blaming the economic dislocation on capitalism whereas your own link, yet again lol, disagrees with you

That "dysfunctional working-class health culture you quote was working fine for 70 years, and then all of a sudden once capitalism was introduced a disaster started. The fact that you don't understand basic cause and effect really underscores the quality of your intellect.

Furthermore, what that says is that people were used to having humane working conditions and not being exploited. Of course, a lot of western scumbags have no problems with exploiting others when it benefits them.

Oh no, our GDP per capita growth rate might shrink from 0.29% a year to 0.27%, truly unravelling lol

I love how you have no idea of how economic basics work. Life is about to get really hard for you.

Your hatred for the West is palpable, do you realise that the hatred lives in you though? It’s like drinking poison hoping someone else gets sick.

Nah, I just think you people are a bunch of clowns and you deserve to reap what you've sowed. You think you're superior to everyone else on the planet and your way of life is the only right way to do things. You're a bunch of smug assholes who've dominated and exploited the rest of the planet for centuries. Chickens are coming home to roost now, and soon even you won't be able to deny that.

It's not an autocracy, it's a democracy as anybody who actually knows the first thing about China understands. It's also demonstrably the fact because the government of China consistently works in the interest of the people of China. This is reflected by things such as massive poverty alleviation, infrastructure building, and so on. This is why the government of China has far higher approval than any western country. However, it's not a western style parliamentary democracy. It's a common mistake that uneducated westerners make to equate democracy with their own failed implementation of the concept.

And I’m not American so not sure why you keep quoting random text from who knows where about them

Well then answer, do you think that America is a and. strongman (autocratic military dictatorships)?

Also, is your own country a strongman autocratic dictatorship given that it has made protesting illegal, and it's torturing journalists?

Ah yes, that's why Ukrainian offensive has run into a wall for the past 4 weeks. You are very intelligent and rational.

And it’s from 8 years ago. I’d bet since Russia’s invasion, more Americans are aware of Ukraine’s location and support for involvement has also grown in that period, so your point is not logical or correct, or based in fact like all your posts.

😂

Ah, so you lived through the failure of communist Russia and have enjoyed the rise of the West’s rich lifestyle and benefits yet yearn for a failed politics that has led to autocracy in pretty much every country to have implemented it. GG!

What I actually lived through was my country turning into hell after liberalism and capitalism. Over 7 million people died in Eastern Europe thanks to introduction of capitalism https://academic.oup.com/cje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cje/beac072/7081084?guestAccessKey=01c8dd9f-af1c-48b3-b271-eb5d3a45017c&login=false

And soon smug weenies in UK will start seeing same thing happen too as your shitty economic system continues to unravel. Your lifestyle was subsidized by the west exploiting and plundering the rest of the world, and those days are over now. Good luck to you.

No, that’s political power, and they are voted into power and out again

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them. The power stays with the class that's actually in charge which is the capital owning class. And there are numerous studies showing this to be the case. Here's what one long term study of US politics has to say:

What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

Meanwhile, the fact that you keep claiming that China is a dictatorship just further exposes your ignorance on the subject you're attempting to debate. This is wilful ignorance because you have been provided with numerous western sources demonstrating that this claim is false. Yet, you continue to repeat it.

And of course, the system that Russia resembles the most is the US. Don't take my word for it though, it's what your own state media says:

"American democracy is a sham, no matter how much it's pumped by the oligarchs who run the country (and who control the nation's "news" media)," he writes. "The US, in other words, is basically similar to Russia or most other dubious 'electoral' 'democratic' countries. We weren't formerly, but we clearly are now."

You are shamefully ignorant of the subject you're attempting to debate. Spend some time educating yourself instead of trolling here.

The title of my post is about Americans not knowing where Ukraine is, you're talking about the title of the article. Amazing how you can't get a single thing straight. Meanwhile, I grew up in USSR, and I've lived in the west for decades. So, yeah I can directly compare what I'm talking about. And nowhere do I venerate Russia in its current state today, it's largely the same type of shithole as a western country now.