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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Over 6 million people have been massacred in the war of terror. That's what mass murder actually looks like https://bylinetimes.com/2021/09/15/up-to-six-million-people-the-unrecorded-fatalities-of-the-war-on-terror/

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (25 children)

Exactly the same excuse Russia used to intervene in Ukraine.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (30 children)

Unlike you trying to justify the atrocities NATO commits, I'm not justifying the invasion of Ukraine. I'm just pointing out that Russia isn't doing anything that doesn't follow the precedent that the US led "rules based" world order has set up. In fact, the invasion of Ukraine is directly modelled on the invasion of Yugoslavia by NATO where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for support. US hasn't left Iraq, and they were forced out of Afghanistan by the people of Afghanistan. They didn't choose to leave.

As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn’t have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That’s the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.

Olympic levels of mental gymnastics here. You keep on digging there buddy.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (33 children)

I don't remember UN resolutions authorizing any of these wars. What is this world community you speak of exactly? And no, they don't leave, US is currently occupying a chunk of Syria. US has annexed a part of Cuba where it runs a torture camp. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, either way you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Good idea, African nations should demand reparations for all the wealth the west robbed them off.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

The only thing obvious here is that you need to make a clown of yourself in public.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (36 children)

Somebody should let Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan know that NATO doesn't invade sovereign countries. The sheer amount of ignorance required to make this statement is absolutely stunning.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (38 children)

That's certainly an interpretation. Using this logic all of NATO is pretty weak since it takes all of NATO to provide the hodgepodge of support needed to prop up Ukraine in the war.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Facts aren’t the issue, interpretation is.

The interpretation is entirely correct. EU is subordinate to US in every practical way, and one has to be wilfully ignorant not to see that.

If you really believe that Europe is “subjugated” I invite you to look at the trade wars we had with the US.

If by trade war you mean US cannibalizing Europe by luring what business is left to prop up its own failing economy then sure.

Most were quite short indeed as the US caves pretty much instantly each time they are shown what we can do. Are those the actions of vassals?

What interests has US actually caved on exactly?

“Focussing” doesn’t mean anything. Approach, confront, what? You never know with the US they don’t have a coherent foreign policy.

Focusing means allocating resources towards Asia. Meanwhile, the fact that US does not have a coherent policy should itself be very worrisome for Europe. Having outsourced your security to an unstable and unreliable partner has put Europe into a rather precarious situation today.

Also, we’re not relying on their protection.

It's very clear that plenty of European states feel they need to have military parity with Russia. While the idea of a war with Russia is obviously insane, that doesn't change the political reality of Europe. Given that Europe is in no position to match Russia militarily, it is therefore reliant on US for military strength.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (40 children)

Oh hey, remind me how Lukashenko survived a coup again, oh that's right Russia got involved.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Equating legality with morality is a logical fallacy. When slavery was legal, people who freed slaves were criminals. Using your logic we should've been siding with the slavers. You sound like a very rational and intelligent person.

 
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