yogthos

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

There's a lot more concrete evidence for the genocide in Donbas that Ukraine was conducting since 2014, but you keep on going.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, first place they check when their positions are under attack is the liveuamap.com obviously.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Whatever you say.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Not sure what the region represents, perhaps that's the focus for where biggest changes occur.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Imagine genuinely having convinced yourself that you can't gauge general public opinion in a country like China. Like there's a party operative hiding behind every corner listening. 😂

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's a lot of words to say that none of the demands were met. What Putin got was to avoid bloodshed, keep wagner and subordinate it to MoD by forcing it into official contracts with the MoD. Cleaned house by ferreting out any elements in the government or military that were supportive of a coup. I suspect that you are huffing copium at a faster rate than Ukraine is losing leopards in their offensive. 😂

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Plenty of western experts have been saying this for many decades. This only became controversial to mention after the war started. Here's what Chomsky has to say on the issue recently:

https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:


George Kennan, arguably America's greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia" back in 1998.


Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed"


Even Gorbachev warned about this. All these experts were marginalized, silenced, and ignored. Yet, now people are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Russia attacked Ukraine out of the blue and completely unprovoked.

Haha please tell me you’re joking. The only reason Russia avoided a coup is because they gave into the demands of the rebels.

What demands did they give in to, be specific. 🤡

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

oh hey I found a few more

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What demands of Prigozhin did they give in to, be specific. Last I checked his demands were that Shoigu and Gerasimov have to be replaced. Last I checked they're still in the same positions they were in, but maybe you know something I don't? Or more likely you have no clue regarding the topic you're attempting to debate.

 
 
 
 

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