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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

China isn't doing anything of the sort. What they're doing is fighting religious extremism, the sort of which no western country would ever tolerate. It's interesting how the same people who purport to support human rights are pretty comfortable with theocracy when it suits their geopolitical interests.

Here's an interview with a son of imam killed in Xinjiang which makes it pretty clear that religious people are a target just like everyone else https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-06-19/Son-of-imam-assassinated-in-Kashgar-s-2014-mosque-attack-speaks-out-RqNiyrcRuo/index.html

Here's another interview with Imams https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/on-eid-xinjiang-imams-defend-china-against-u-s-criticism-1.5425967

A Pakistani journalist who has been all over Xinjiang (which borders Pakistan) claims that western media reports on "atrocities" are lies. https://dailytimes.com.pk/723317/exposing-the-occidents-baseless-lies-about-xinjiang/

Western reports on Xinjiang don't support the lurid narrative you're pushing either

Representatives of Arab majority nations actually wrote a letter to the UN in support of China https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3853509?ln=en

The reality is that US has been funding and arming extremists in Xinjiang trying to replicate Afghanistan model when they toppled a socialist government there. Don't take my word for it though, here's George Bush's chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here's an excerpt:

Throughout the 1990s, hundreds of Uyghurs were transported to Afghanistan by the CIA for training in guerilla warfare by the mujahideen. When they returned to Xinjiang, they formed the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and came under Catli's expert direction. Graham Fuller, CIA superspy, offered this explanation for radicalizing the Chinese Muslims:

The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them [Muslims] against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan and against the Red Army. The doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter Chinese influence in Central Asia.

US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they've been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west.

And of course, before US started weaponizing terrorists they themselves were fighting these people https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-was-at-war-uyghur-terrorists-now-claims-etim-doesnt-exist/276916/

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

If anything, it's getting less political after the reddit migration.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

US is steadily turning into an extremist theocracy, wouldn't be surprised if US starts resembling something like UAE or Isreal in a decade or so.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

What shit am I ignoring, be specific. Are you trying to claim that freedom from religious extremism is a negative for people of Xinjiang?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

NATO has never worked to prevent genocide, and NATO is responsible for massacring people on an incredible scale with over 6 million people killed in war on terror alone. NATO invaded Yugoslavia unilaterally without an UN authorization. These are just plain facts, and you are a deeply dishonest individual who got caught lying repeatedly. I've got nothing else to say to you.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I mean even wikipedia admits this, I love how you keep pretending that your lies are hard to prove

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Lots of links I provided are mainstream western outlets, but you keep on lying since that's all you've got.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Have your considered that Cuba's development may be impacted by the fact that the global hegemon has spent decades finding new and creative ways to fuck Cuba over. It's basically this problem that every existing socialist state has right now https://cym.ie/2020/04/01/left-anti-communism-the-unkindest-cut-by-michael-parenti/

Yet, despite all the problems Cuba has, it has higher life expectancy than US, higher literacy, and it's one of the most sustainable countries in the world. Cuba also managed to effectively protect its population during covid and develop its own vaccines. All while being a tiny island under siege. These are the material tangible benefits that are a direct result of the socialist system Cuba has.

Meanwhile, if the west ever does become socialist then the flavor of socialism it will have will necessarily be rooted in the conditions of the west, its culture, history, and all other factors that are unique to the west. This is why I think there isn't much value in worrying about how China or other socialist countries developed. Each country has its own unique circumstances, and no two are exactly alike. China is different from Cuba, or Vietnam, or what USSR was. The only key principle is that the core of the economy is publicly owned and that the working class holds power as opposed to capitalists. How that's accomplished is up to the people of each country to figure out.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You used so many words to tell us you have no clue what imperialism is bro. Please do keep on adding hilarity to the thread though. It's like having a personal court jester.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Literally showed how every single of your claims is wrong with sources, but you do you buddy.

 
 
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