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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Oh well, since you're so well informed on Hawaii, are you denying anything the link says or do you think that's just normal stuff happening there that you endorse?

The actual topic is that Taiwan is not its own country, and you continuing to repeat that over and over here isn't going to change reality. The issue isn't between Taiwan and the rest of China, that can be resolved any time. The issue is between China and US. Right now China expects that it will be able to push US influence out of Taiwan in a peaceful way, and as I've earlier explained, that's precisely where things are likely to go next year when KMT gets in power. However, if China decides they've had enough of US messing around in their country and violating their sovereignty then they will resolve the issue militarily. These are the only two possible outcomes here.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago

When the same bullshit keeps coming up, it's pretty easy to debunk it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (12 children)

It states that US has a one China policy and the government of China happens to be PRC as recognized by the UN and practically every nation on earth. If you still can't understand this basic fact what else is there to tell you.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pretending that the referendum didn't have a shred of credibility is the height of intellectual dishonesty. Let's just look at a few facts about Crimea from a US government study. First thing to note is that it was never part of Ukraine proper. US government referred to it as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Second thing to note is that majority of the people in Crimea do not consider themselves Ukrainian, and the biggest demographic considers themselves Russian:

Furthermore, we can take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here's the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

here's how the election in 2004 went:

this is the 2010 election:

As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

Finally, here's what the regime in Ukraine has been doing to the people in these areas as reported by CNN in 2014, I'm really curious how you're going to justify why those people should've just obeyed the regime after watching that

https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Should really read that link I gave you up there from an actual native person in Hawaii.

The only thing that reeks of ignorance is claiming that US isn't the only reason Taiwan issue exists. Where did the money for separatist movement come from exactly, who created the sunflower movement, and props up the DPP excatly?

US is the problem in Taiwan, after the civil war in China, US decided to prop up the side that lost and actually referred to Taiwan as an unsinkable carrier. That's the problem in Taiwan.

There is nothing else I can say to you because it's pretty clear that you're either woefully uninformed on the subject you're attempting to debate or just a shill for your empire.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (18 children)

You literally just said that Hawaiian independence movement is so tiny as to be nonexistent, why do you think that is, where did you think all the people go?

Meanwhile, it's relevant to the discussion of Taiwan because US is the sole reason there is a problem in Taiwan. If you can't understand how China funding and supporting and independence movement in Hawaii would be analogous to what US is doing in Taiwan, then what else is there to say to you.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

That's about the only kind of chips US can make at this point. 🤣

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Postdam Declaration states that Taiwan is part of PRC, it's not ambiguous about that in any way.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's not complicated at all. The people who live there don't want to be governed by the regime that took power after 2014 in a violent coup and that's actively hostile to them. They had a referendum and joined Russia, so they're not on Ukrainian territory anymore.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I love how you argument is, well we actually slaughtered most of the indigenous population, so it's not a problem anymore. Quintessentially American thing to say.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like a lot of people can't accept that two things can be bad at the same time. It's perfectly possible to be against Russia invading Ukraine, while also acknowledging why the invasion happened, and that Ukraine was a pretty messed up place before the war started. Everybody seems to want things to be nice and simple like a movie.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

When your interview processes selects for people who like puzzles then you end up with people writing clever code that looks like a puzzle.

 
 

US propaganda machine in action

 

Just another reminder that US is a genocidal regime.

 
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