witnessbolt

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[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Stop pretending that people who hoard more money & power than entire countries and have to abuse countless workers to get there have the same level of rational thought as you and me.

It's like the idea of being a king. When you can, at will, throw folks in jail... it messes you up. It changes how you view the world and your role in it.

Then remember that it's not like these guys all just went "I'm a billionaire. That's it. I won. I'm done"

They kept chasing money and kept growing. They kept chasing power. You realize that some of them are thinking about more than just being an influential billionaire, right?

Once again


some of them want their own cities. Look up "freedom cities." Trump has stated, in a 2-3 minute camera clip, that he would like to auction off federal land to billionaires for them to run their own cities. It is unsaid but implied that they would get to make the laws there.

It's literally what Peter Thiel has been trying to accomplish for the rich & wealthy for decades.

"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." -Peter Thiel

The only thing these right wingers mean when they say freedom is the freedom for rich people to screw the rest of us even more.

Power. And. Money. Corrupt. You know the saying. It's not a meme, buddy. We have thousands of years of history to show us how often rich & powerful go looney

Hint: it's most of the time

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Billionaires are not our allies. And some of them are genuinely stupid enough to have thought they could contain what was going on that it was just gonna be more tax cuts for them. They, like the public, didn't all actually believe it would be true. They are not inherently smarter or more immune to propaganda than we are.

They just have more access to information - if they don't surround themselves with people that are only yes men and such.

Other billionaires are betting on the collapse, and are willing to take less monetary power, to have more literal power if they can create their own city states. Literally what they're hoping for.

They are short sighted, stupid, arrogant, heartless... and, many, traitors.

Some need to be made an example of.

But we accept those who ask for forgiveness. I'm not saying to actually forgive them. Or to re-establish normal lives with them. Other people can do that work.

But they do have to have SOME kind of off-ramp, or you might as well be making the same arguments that MAGA are when they claim "liberalism is a mental illness and should be jailed."

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

Nope. Jailing anyone without due process/etc is un American. We talked before.

We are on the same side. If you're not a bad actor, I encourage you to take a more constructive approach to this discussion.

When Hamas very first attacked, I was on Israel's side. Not everyone is as educated on Israel's influence on our politics/etc. (fuck Israel. They can figure shit out on their own. I don't want to fund genocide. Period.)

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (26 children)

They ARE traitors. Russian-backed, Nazi-seig-heil throwing traitors. They aren't joking about wanting to jail liberals. They 100% mean it.

They've been prepped to be fine with it since they started calling "liberalism a mental disorder."

Straight Russian propaganda. The Kremlin wants to stamp out western liberal democracy. MAGA's the push to destroy America

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

I think wayyyyy more people than you realize say it. Even people you think are raging leftists. Most of us got quiet because we in general agree with left leaning things. Feel free to skim my profile...

But man... fucking EVERYONE says retarded. I'm very left leaning. Once I got away from a few select people... it was genuinely kind of a culture shock for me how many people say it lol.

I'm not advocating for people to just sling it like crazy.. and I know in a way that's kind of what's gonna happen to SOME EXTENT... but as someone who tried to push other folks toward not saying this in the past....

I 100% think it's a lost cause. I don't think it's going away. I don't personally think it's ableist and never did.

To make a comparison, from my perspective, it's kind of like turning the word "insane" into a slur.... we did some reaaaal bad things to people under the veil they were "insane." We put people in jail and mental hospital for most of their lives. We fried their brains with medication and lobotomized them both chemically and physically. It's not as common, but it is 100% an insult to tell someone they are insane or acting insane (I mean if they're bashing their skull into a tree or somethin that IS insane but that would also be an extreme example to call someone retarded over)

But we don't get upset about calling people insane today... everything has context and I think the context of retard has moved on from why people are offended.

A more apt comparison is being equally mad you called someone slow... I mean... retard is literally a word for slow in French... it kinda really only become ableist when someone wants it to be interpreted that way. At what point is simply calling someone stupid not also then ableist? Are we gonna crucify people if they use any other insult beyond "ignorant" that doesn't indicate the insultee's willingness in their stupidity? Or is "you lack/display a lack of intelligence" (the definition of stupidity) somehow more classy than slow and retarded in your eyes?

My 2c is that unless you expect to erase the word (you're not going to) you're better off helping to change the meaning in common view (most of us just think it means ya RLY RLY fkin dumb but use a word beyond stupid or idiot) and steal it back from them. Grinding to death and dividing OURSELVES internally over shit this nonsensical is killing us.

It's an easy code switch that uses their language against them and makes you more credible in their eyes 🤷🏻 as an ally I'm just saying not every battle can be won the way you originally wanted it to be

TLDR: bunch of different justifications for why I call MAGATs retards when they make stupid points in arguments

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 90 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Yeap. That was the plan. JD Vance is on camera well before the election saying Trump should have his Andrew Jackson moment and tell them to go ahead and try to enforce their ruling. They want absolute power.

I'd post the clip if I could, it says too large. 😴

Edit: here is a link to the clip. Idk where to upload it for a longer period. It'll expire 2 days from when I post this. Full vid = "Dark Gothic MAGA" by Blonde Politics

https://streamable.com/mit2cu

This is literally the moment where a dictator rises. This is THE make it or break it moment. If the Supreme Court does not appoint marshals to enforce its ruling - if it does not enforce it is a co-equal branch, as mandated by the Constitution,

then the Executive is free to do what it wants with no consequences. The Executive is immune even to Supreme Court rulings.

Even if you somehow believe that the 2026 and 2028 elections will still matter by then (IF WE MAKE IT THERE, VOTE ANYWAY MOFO), just imagine the damage a president that is no longer equal to the Supreme Court & Congress can do. The Constitution is quite literally broken at that point - if you can make the argument that the previous executive immunity ruling didn't break it in the first place.

Anyone got betting odds on the SC actually trying to enforce the ruling?... just trying some humor cause... boys, gals, otherwise.... no matter what ultimately happens as the outcome to all this, all roads are dark from here.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 32 points 3 months ago

Project2025.observer <--- tracker

Mission accomplished

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's literally the point. Social media is literally one of Peter Thiel & co's weapons to overthrow & destabilize democracies. If they succeed in the US, they plan to do it to every democracy.

Easy to frame lies as "free speech" when you control what everyone gets to see

Peter Thiel was the first outside investor in Facebook, and Zuck is close with him and all the other "dark enlightenment" tech bros

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Fuck Israel. Trump is just as bad if not worse on Israel. He proudly and loudly will give Israel anything they want.

But no we have to argue about nonsense like Trump's tariffs tanking the economy because we elected a traitor and a moron... instead of electing the prosecutor we could have influenced her stance on Israel.

We literally had Congress folk in Russia on July 4th. Please stop whitewashing Russia. Israel and Russia are both our enemies.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

You need to accept that there are overlapping, but sometimes opposing, interests that are working together but may split at some point.

The oligarchs want to be Russia.

But instead of the CEO of America having absolute power like Putin (well, he would still, but) he would answer to the oligarchy. The "board of directors" of America.

Some of the tech bros just want to outright collapse American democracy and make new city-states from the ashes. I'd say there's less of them, but they ARE prominent in the administration (MUSK is one of them) and they are very dangerous.

Meanwhile the religious right is a bit more traditional and want a strong unitary religious authoritarian government that basically institutes Christian theocracy.

Both interests benefit by taking power from the many (us) and pooling it to the few (tech & oil billionaires)

But this is what happens when everyone starts to paint the world entirely in black & white and does things like essentially say Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are equally left. (Or have such a warped world view you don't understand Sanders is like a single footstep to the left, because America is so far to the right)

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with you. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that Trump is literally like Putin's direct agent in America where Putin says "ok now do this!" and Trump does it.

It's more than Trump has been doing Russian dirty work for decades and through that relationship, the Russians both have made "friends" with Trump and learned how to manipulate him (whether that's only through flattery & strongmanism or if there's actually some kind of dirt there, I can't say with 100% certainty) and that Trump's personal goals will often overlap with Russia's goals or Russia sees a way it can score an outcome from something Trump is already leaning into.

Like you said - gardeners watching the fruits of their labor grow. And occasionally sprinkling some fertilizer when it benefits them.

But the goals of both parties are anti-American

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