vaguerant

joined 10 months ago
[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The "stone" with the words in it has a suspiciously uniform appearance. I wonder whether it might be concrete and the letters pressed into it while wet, in which case basically none of it is true.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

I had forgotten how this episode was structured; I remembered it as everything up until the reveal being part of the simulation, including the death of Lt. Payne in engineering. The episode is obviously much better than that, foreshadowing the plot by having Alara cope with her trauma in the simulated boxing gym.

This episode does a good job of leading you on and making you think that all of this could really be happening up until Gordon gets swallowed. They could have kept the viewers in suspense a little longer than that if that creature had hauled Gordon away screaming instead of eating him and Alara declaring him dead.

That's a good point. It's pretty clear this far into the show that main characters are off the table for anti-climactic deaths. Still, I don't mind too much because the "it was all a dream" (simulation) story reveal is one of the least satisfying around. It softens the blow a bit to know ahead of time that this episode is going to have some form of reset by the end. Given the experience involved, I even wonder if it was done deliberately for that reason. I like that by the time of the reveal we're already waiting for what kind of reveal it will be instead of it just being out of nowhere, which is the least satisfactory kind of these.

The scene where Grayson says she's going to "shower and change" then just about falls into the abyss is a fun subversion of the standard horror trope where a woman in a state of undress gets attacked. Having her basically announce an upcoming Psycho pastiche only to hard zag away is a really fun time and one of my favorite "jokes" in an episode that's already doing a lot of good stuff comically: "Looks like a big screensaver, doesn't it?" / "She's not getting a pizza."

It's also a ton of fun to see Robert Picardo from Voyager show up as Alara's father. Overall, just a great, strong episode. I don't have any complaints, they really got it all right here. The Orville running on all cylinders.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Badmé Amidala.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed on all counts. Most of what occurs around the farting aliens is pretty solid, but they're not at all entertaining. They also play into some ugly tropes about fat people being disgusting. Oddly, I don't feel a lot of the episode is particularly appealing to children outside of the Slitheen. It's got some fairly "adult" stuff with Jackie, all the political goings-on, and multiple fairly long segments of people just watching the news.

There is that one odd moment of Rose telling the Doctor "You're so gay!" as they discuss the slap. It's hard to take much offense to it coming from the famously-gay Davies, but it's at least unexpected. Davies explained the inclusion in an email exchange with a fan:

Davies on Rose calling the Doctor "gay"Hi Alun,

Good point. It was a complicated moment which required a great deal of thought.

The simple answer is: that's how people talk. And although that's simple, it's very powerful. I can't imagine a proper drama which is couched in terms of how people should talk.

Second, the word is changing. This is an irreversible process beyond anyone's control. It seems to me that we're becoming people who complain about the use of the word gay, much as people used to complain about the word gay, because it no longer meant 'happy'. No words stay staticl.

But most importantly, you're right - there's a vital political issue burning away here, and you do nothing about those issues if you ignore them. I've put it right at the heart of BBC1 primetime. Put it this way: let's imagine a viewer who has, roughly, yours and my sensibilities. Let's call him A. Now, before that comment, there were millions of kids using the word 'gay' as an insult, and what was A doing about it? Probably nothing. Yes, there are activists out there, but most people don't, so A was left passive. Nothing changes. On the other hand, Rose says 'You're so gay', A objects, and - here's the crux - A DOES SOMETHING. He gets up off his seat. He tells his nearest and dearest that he objects. He might even go so far as to contact the author, to complain.

Fantastic. Good television isn't television which makes you smile all the time and agree. If it makes you stand up and object - especially where you weren't expecting it - then that's a brilliant and powerful thing. That's why it's important that the word comes from Rose; lovely, kind Rose (who's exactly the right age to be using that word in that context). If a villain had said it, then he's a villain, and therefore an idiot, so there's no problem. When the good guys say it, as they do, then that causes a problem. And that problem is good.

It's agitation. And it works. If one parent - watching a family show - objected about the usage of 'gay' in front of his or her kids; if one teacher thought that was wrong, that this pernicious insult has invaded even Doctor Who; if one man has gone to the effort of contacting a writer in order to tackle a vital subject, and will then take that debate into other areas of his life, then that is absolutely excellent. If Rose had said nothing, less would happen. You can't always make your point in life by saying the right thing and being nice (not in my opinion anyway, and unfortunately, I'm the writer!). You have to provoke.

And there's a long game at work here. Let's imagine, say, viewer B, who is an idiot. And B chuckles along in Beavis-and-Butthead style at Rose's comment, agreeing; he thinks, I like this show, I hate the gays, Doctor Who is good. Fine. So he keeps watching. And in a few weeks time, the Doctor gets a strapping, heroic male companion... who is clearly and resolutely bisexual. Viewer B's head implodes. My work is done.

Funnily enough, I was queueing up in Tesco's today, and the 12 y/o girl behind me in the queue called her 11 y/o brother a gayboy, in a venomous tone of voice. I turned round and said, if you call him a gayboy one more time, this gayboy is gonna smash your face in. Unsubtle, yes. I threatened a girl! But it worked. Activism isn't easy, but it's needed, so I'm delighted you wrote.

I'm glad you're enjoying the show, I hope you keep watching.

All the best,

Russell

tl;dr: That's how people of the time talked, not how he felt they should talk. He then goes into some contradictory arguments: that the word is changing and complaining about it now is no better than the people who complained when it changed from meaning "happy" ... but also that it is wrong and he included it in the episode in order to deliberately spark opposition to its use.

It eventually devolves into him "today" threatening to smash a 12 year-old girl's face in for calling her brother a "gayboy". I don't much know what to make of it. Is it activism for a 42-year-old man to threaten a child with violence? Weird stuff.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago

Also he was primarying Andrew Cuomo, who previously resigned in disgrace over a slew of sexual misconduct allegations and an impeachment. There's plenty of reasons to vote against Cuomo that are completely unrelated to Israel.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, he was reportedly conceived in a casual encounter. His parents weren't in an ongoing relationship and the father didn't remain very involved in either of their lives.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is not how a bastard works. To be clear, all of this is archaic, I'm not actually calling anybody a bastard, but the definition of bastard is "a child born to parents who are not married to each other." He matches that definition because his parents were never married.

Affairs don't come into it, it's just some old bullshit cultural and religious ideals about which types of relationships (just the one: heterosexual marriages) children are "supposed" to be born into.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Missed an opportunity to say "Fuck cars and fuck Carr."

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 26 points 1 month ago

I don't think he's anywhere in the line of succession regardless. He's the son of the Crown Princess (by marriage) but not of the Crown Prince. i.e. His mother had him as a result of a prior relationship, then married the Crown Prince, making him the stepson of the man who will one day be king, but not really anything on his own account. Besides a rapist.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 23 points 1 month ago

Do we have our own /r/wowthanksimcured yet?

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This doesn't belong in Not The Onion, the Betoota Advocate is extremely satirical. OP ate the onion and then posted it on Not The Onion.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did you all hear the recent announcement that they're making a Spaceballs 2? It's scheduled for 2027. Bill Pullman (Lone Starr), Daphne Zuniga (Vespa), Rick Moranis (Dark Helmet) and Mel Brooks (Yogurt) are all returning, alongside new characters played by Lewis Pullman (Bill's real son), Josh Gad and Keke Palmer. I'm not even joking.

https://deadline.com/2025/06/spaceballs-2-casts-rick-moranis-bill-pullman-keke-palmer-1236431204/

view more: ‹ prev next ›