By that definition Palestine has been under genocide for 50 years
Yes. 70+, to be more accurate.
ubergeek
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There’s a ceasefire that Trump was at least part of achieving
No. He had nothing to do with it, aside from promising he'd publicly give Bibi free reign if he won, which was better than not publicly giving Bibi free reign while still giving it to him.
but American leftists are too spineless to do anything other than complain so the end result is… this mess.
Um, we've been doing far more than complaining... Who do you think is organizing on the ground right now, and have been for years? I mean, not like the Dems helped, or even moved out of the way of that organizing...
I mean, I really did enjoy getting tear gassed by Democratic party cops for daring to protest against police.
how allowing Trump to return to power was in any way better
How was arresting your voters for protesting genocide helping keep Trump out of power?
And them acting morally superior is childish considering they didn’t help us try to get out of our own fire
How many times do you expect people to put their deeply held morals aside, to help elect amoral people seize power?
Democrats seem spineless, because not enough of The American People cast votes in Novembers election to give them to power to do or stop Republicans doing litteraly anything all.
Maybe if the Dems stopped tossing people into prison for protesting genocides, or for protesting police abuse of authority, there might be more people able to vote for a Dem?
You want to cosplay the resistance, read up on how things actually went under the Nazi regime.
Oh, you mean the Nazi regime where anarchists self-organized and fought the Nazis while everyone else was inviting the Nazis to the Olympics? Or the times that anarchists showed up to put a beat down on Nazis doing a dog and pony show at Madison Square?
But if so, all of you should understand that you aren’t gambling that you’ll win your individual fight with the fascists - you’re gambling, first of all, that there will be a fight.
That's not a gamble. We know a fight is coming. We just are unsure of when it will start. We're preparing for that.
If they notice you, the institution with disproportionate resources and full-time goons to sic on you, they’re going to choose where, when, and how the confrontation goes down, and “Politely, in the daytime, clearly marked coming down the street while you’re on guard duty at the safe house” is not fucking likely to be the result.
We've been dealing with that for years already.... I mean, how do you think Anarchists ended up in prison in the US already?
If they notice you, the chances of there being a fight is slim.
We only need to be lucky once. They need to be lucky every single time.
and nor will any number of your plans about how you and your buddies will heroically defend your community. So stow the macho bullshit.
It's hardly "macho bullshit"... But go on projecting. What's your plan, btw? Capitulate at the soonest chance?
So, do you suggest going without a fight? Do you not understand how community defense works?
Sigh. We fight for those on the left and right of us.
If it was just for me, then why would I suggest training, arming AND organizing?
A resolution, for a ceasefire, that the US blocked.
And yes, US backing genocide has a long, and storied tradition, if you will. Hitler got his "best" ideas for it, from the US.
They aren't herding me anywhere, without a fight.
That's why we arm ourselves, and train, and organize.
And it's been getting worse for everyone since like.... 1976 on so?
Like did you forget the preventable AIDS epidemic pushed by Reagan? The 1993 Crime Bill that tossed thousands or Black folk into prison? Crack cocaine introduced to our communities by the US government? Mass arrests of people protesting for racial justice? Gitmo? 1985 MOVE bombing? Indigenous Boarding Schools?
At least one Dem is using the correct terminology for what is going on.