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That sounds like continuing to ignore these issues.

Ignoring what issues? That men, quite often, due to what adults teach kids, are shitty people? Or that it takes a bit of deprogramming oneself to start treating women like equal humans, rather than objects to be won?

Yes, it is the default in our society, for men to be shitty. Because we are still teaching our kids toxic masculinity, rather than healthy masculinity.

I hate myself for being a man. All I feel anymore is guilt and shame. And there is nothing that can be done.

Um, that's not healthy there...

I mean, I'm a dude, and I realize most dudes suck... But that doesn't make me hate myself. It just makes me want to be "better" so I'm not "one of those men" or one of the dudes who when women are bitching about shitty men, they turn and say,"Well, not you, of course!"

I think this is where Reich Wingers distort the message: The message shouldn't make you hate yourself for being a dude, but should make you hate the toxic masculinity you were taught, and for you to rise above that.

ok, I love this idea lol. "PlentyOfRamen"

He probably got that idea from Kathy Hochul's CCIA, which mandated anyone getting a pistol permit, or semi-auto hunting rifle permit to fork over all social media logins.

That was, of course, knocked down, as a 1A infringement, rightfully so. I'm guessing the SCOTUS will love this version, though.

It's far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie.... adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.

Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.

Good.

By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi.

Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?

Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?

Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?

Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.

Ok, we're not talking about the past right now. We're talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.

It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.

Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.

Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.

No, it's principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.

I suspect they would NOT be in a rush to sell, given their comments.

Worse than rejecting... castigating and ejecting them whenever possible.

Im expecting all the first ringers last term, who have since spoke put: Pence is top of lost, imo.

Just waiting for the shoe to drop on the Long Knives.

You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.

Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa's swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?

We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That's all the needed context.

Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.

So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.

Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.

But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially... No matter how evil the intention is.