trailing9

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[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Thank you for that analysis.

only capitalists are incentiviced to reduce costs.

Right, you didn't write that. You wrote that a coop could struggle when a competitor undercuts costs.

Right now, in this channel: Consequential Efficiency https://reddthat.com/post/3221538

Coops could reduce costs easier with a lower floor than regular companies if workers participate in a long-term reward.

I believe that most people don't want socialism. But the people who do could create a network of coops and share their resources however they like.

There are many markets where businesses can be bootstrapped without capital. Why not enter those markets and have the best margins by offering the best products? There is only a limited need to cut costs if a product doesn't compete on price.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Competition is inherent to our existence. Not everybody can have a house of gold or even live on the coast. How do you allocate scarce resources? Competition is everywhere.

Nationalizing supplies only hides the true prices and will create a grey market for undervalued goods. Problem is that most goods will be overvalued because, as you write, only capitalists are incentiviced to reduce costs.

No leadership can overcome the misalignment of incentives. The sovjet union could have had better leaders but which resources can they use if managers don't dare to cut costs?

Coops can be more competitive when workers understand that they are not only compensated with money to consume but also influence. At least the unemployed should be willing to participate.

If workers cannot be motivated to support coops, how can socialism be sustained?

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

What does that mean? That managing a successful revolution is easier than managing coops?

Why is it important that the proletariat owns capital? Deconstruct your requirements and find a way to achieve your goals. If you try to achieve something that people want then there is a way to get it.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (40 children)

Thanks for your detailed answer.

I wouldn't call it capitalism but markets. How can you escape markets, even if you control a state? Some people argue that the soviet union broke due to low oil prices.

Have you considered that coops need less capital to survive? When doing business becomes costly, coops could be the only businesses that survive. They could then keep unemployment rates ar zero while making profits.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (50 children)

If unemployment rate is the key, why not create so many worker cooperatives that everybody can have a job?

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

There are many obstacles like complex building codes, limited supply of building sites, credit requirements or limited public transport. Reduce them, respectively increase public transport, and more people have an opportunity to spend their money on real estate with the expectation of profits.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

With competition, other units will be cheaper. Units will be rented for production costs. Competition is not a bandaid but the solution.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Tiktok algorithm can be limited to educational videos. Of course this requires cooperation from Tiktok or the introduction of a new app.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When I look at home prices I know that school never has been good. People don't understand what they have to do to drive down prices.

Why can't Tiktok be used to find the best courses? There is no need for teachers to teach when Tiktok can do it better. Let teachers become mentors.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Like flight mode there should be school mode where students can only use a provided wlan that comes with content filters.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

A world where humanity can explore its full potential without a constantly looming existential crisis.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Which features would you need to continue staying federated, possibly limited to white-listed instances?

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