tomzstuff

thanks, interested to see what others use them for and how much, I think netflix was the only thing I really used it for too. I do think its a good idea, I just dont see the use case, but thats just me :)

I guess it should be an option though if there are some folks out there who use it. Can't see it being a big deal to have a touchscreen as an option.

See lots of complaints about speakers, personally speaking from my experience with my Framework 13 Ryzen 7 this just doesn't seem to make sense.

I have a few other premium laptops for my various businesses, some costing more and with B&O speakers. None are great. I have used Macbooks too (in the past just want to add), and equally they were poor too, just with a very high price tag and shocking customer service.

I'm keen to see what laptops people think have good speakers. I have never come across any that are exceptionally better than these? If there are any, post below, I could use a device for my kids that has good sound.

I've never understood the appeal of the touchscreen on a laptop. I had various Surface Pro's over the years and a few HP laptops with touchscreen. I think I used it like a handful of times.

Just don't see the point IMO. I'd be keen to hear what people actually use the touchscreen for when we all have phones, why do we want a PC/tablet too?

Have you checked you didnt damage or crush any cables when putting it together?

What's dated about the design?

Why dont you use a bitcoin wallet or a virtual card then?

Do you mean becasue of the aspect ratio of the screen?

I love my AMD Ryzen, had it for a month or so now. I do pretty well with the battery, but yes, I used to have a Dell Lattitude which had an extreme battery!

It woul dbe nice to see if Framework could make a double USBC expansion card.

I have the Ryzen 7 version. I've noticed the battery life is quite a bit better in Windows. I use Fedora as my daily OS, but Windows does seem to manage the battery/performance/power stuff better (which is a shame).

Speakers are very loud on mine, however quality not amazing. Although I have never owned a laptop with amazing speakers. Even my HP Elitebook 840 G laptop that cost around £1400 that has B&O speakers are not great either, no worse than my Framework.

That's a shame. I thought they did have a right to repair on iphones now? If not, then that's terrible!

ah this makes me happy that I am not a Mac user :)

So I don’t have any concerns and I am a Framework AMD Ryzen 7 user. Was in batch 2 and been happy since delivery. My observations:

Is it loud under full load? No louder than any other laptop.

Does it discharge when powered off? Not any more than any other laptop does, and the battery life I get is great. Lasts a day for general use (word processing etc). All batteries discharge when not being used.

Display brightness is very good, aspect ratio is the reason I purchased it.

Hinges - don’t really understand the issue, they are good and secure (think people talking about hinge issues are referring to previous/older versions. On the AMD version this is not an issue at all).

Speakers, sound ok, no worse than my HP 840G which itself is an expensive laptop (work) and they on my HP are B&O speakers.

Is it an investment? No laptop is, but its upgradeable fixable and when you're really done with it, its environmental recyclable credentials are very good. I like that.

Is it expensive? No, I don’t think so compared with my HP laptop, which is very poor in relation to being upgradeable/fixable. I broke the USBC port on my HP 840G and it cost £250 to fix. With my Framework laptop, I can just buy another port for around £10.

Is it a great laptop? Yes, I think so.

Are there better laptops on the market? Probably, it depends what is important to you. For me its important primarily that its not a Mac, their "ecosystem" is boring and their treatment of customers is shockingly bad. Apple's supply chain has very questionable human rights issues and their right to repair is too little too late for me. Being flexible and repairable is a win win for me.

My thoughts :) let us know what you decide to do.