tocopherol

joined 2 years ago
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

You bet your bippy it counts, comrade!

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like there are a lot of us that just aren't open about it because so many people have ignorant views about socialism, we'd rather save ourselves the headache. Or maybe worried of an employer judging it and getting fired, or police investigating, which US and other security forces have been known to do to leftists of all types.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The weird thing is that the US far-right will often support Israel, even if they are Jewish, I think because they are seen as whiter compared to Arab people like Palestinians. And for fundamentalist Christians there is some prophecy about Israel bringing the end-times to save humanity or whatever.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Basically every act of mass violence begins with dehumanizing the enemy. Even well meaning people will be like "oh so he says inflammatory stuff, so what." These words like 'vermin' are a specific call to action.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His supporters fully believe his win was stolen the first time. If he does lose the election, that will not be the end of it. It seems like the real die hard supporters aren't even aiming for a legitimate electoral win of any kind even if rigged, just pure coup. They are a tiny minority, but authoritarian governments are often supported and put in place by a small minority of the people.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Oh, just like in 2001 when 'radical Islam' hated our freedom so we had to invade Iraq? You can say the same about the goal for Israeli leadership, they have long made it clear they don't support a solution that allows Palestine to exist, they want the idea and the people gone. If they got rid of Palestine you don't think they'd have new targets?

What do you even mean Jordan is next?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Like Trump wouldn't turn the genocide up to eleven, we're pretty fucked either way. Democrats at least pretend to want to outsource genocide, right-wingers in the US would openly support it domestically as well.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well if you want to see anything that supports capitalism you can go to millions of other places, it's exhausting hearing the same tired comebacks over and over again so people that support true leftism tend to like spaces that are more specific for that. This is a community called "Lefty Memes", I'm sure most people that follow this follow other communities as well that are less specific. Though I think it can be good for less left or pro-capitalists to discuss their views in these sorts of places.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are a supporter of capitalism but in the terminology of socialist critique they are not a capitalist, as in a member of the capitalist class who owns the capital and therefore does not need to use their labor to earn money. This is in contrast to the proletariat or worker class who must use their labor to earn a living.

Many people in the world are impoverished, but what causes that? Was that caused by the lack of capitalism there? I assure you most people in poverty in the world are living under a capitalist system.

One factor in the impoverishment of the global South is due to people manipulating markets because of their ownership of the means of production. They are able to shift manufacturing to where they can get the most profit, while governments benefit from their business at the detriment of their citizens who are pushed into poverty by the corporations and governments who reduce regulations to benefit the capitalist class.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah capitalism is the system, 'capitalist' is the class, vs proletariat. People who use their capital to derive a profit, vs workers who have no capital but use their labor to earn a profit.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No water or other infrastructure where the land is available, which is possible to overcome but takes a lot of resources. Where it has been tried in my country (US) it gets violently evicted by the police if they aren't paying taxes or don't officially own the land.

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