That line of arguing might have worked a few weeks ago, but we have seen numerous times people were bombed in the place they were specifically told to evacuate to. 11,000+ people killed so far, over 4,000 children. If they aren't terrorists then they are prisoners like you said, so why are they being slaughtered by IDF bombing?
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Followers of Islam are Muslim, Muslims are Islamic, what is the distinction you are making? I guess you are saying to be against the religion versus the followers of the religion.
Either way though, Islam doesn't have to be violent, people use writings from centuries ago to justify violence that would be there without their religion. Islam like Christianity and essentially all major religions preach peace and love for all people, even your enemies. They require doing good service like giving to charity to obtain salvation. Islamic groups have lived peacefully alongside other religious groups countless times.
We have this technology but still only certain perspectives are allowed to be broadcast while others are ignored. I remember meeting people from Palestine when I was young, seeing how nice and chill they were and how they wished they could go back but it was too dangerous. I think it's rare for anyone in the US to have met anyone actually from Palestine or Israel. It's a lot more difficult to dehumanize someone you are friends with.
It goes for both really lol this whole conversation I think is not necessarily productive
Automatic translation between English and most Asian languages has always been terrible, but AI translations are the best I've ever seen, and can actually get some nuance and context, I could see a new bridge being connected between people this way.
Why you gotta post just to be rude?
I am an anarchist, I mostly agree with your points on left unity but I am glad this instance is federated with hexbear. There is a strong distinction between commies and anarchists historically but I'm not sure if it is as relevant today, and the capitalist forces have developed to such a point that I really feel there isn't much room for division between socialist groups. But of course you gotta watch out for authoritarian tendencies. Whether or not we should be united it's good to remain in communication, I think the discourse helps members of both groups find what works for them personally.
That's the funny thing to me about commies or anarchists arguing with each other online, I feel like most serious people in both groups don't even bother with that bs, and work together IRL at actions without thinking about it.
What are you getting at?
Yep, they said the same thing when they would bomb neighborhoods in Iraq and kill dozens of civilians, that they were being used by insurgents or whatever. It is decades old propaganda always used against any non-state militant group.
I think it can be material for class at times, I've seen it assigned for some college course in the US at least. Even if it was actually found in a kid's bedroom with notes that doesn't mean they are some kinda nazi. Like is there no Israeli citizen that owns a copy of Mein Kampf? If one was serious about being anti-fascist it seems like a good thing to study. Israel has a weird definition of 'child' in their propaganda so who knows, was it a college or high school-aged student's room?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war
Sources are at the bottom, and there are links to information where massacres took place in the villages.