tocopherol

joined 2 years ago
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Is it just the interactions you've been having? :P I haven't seen anywhere near that hostility personally but I usually avoid convos where people seem too hostile. I've found a lot more support here than most other online spaces I've seen.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

People disagreeing doesn't mean they are bots automatically, posts defending the IDF get downvoted because there is more than ample evidence of the IDF committing some of the worst atrocities I've seen in my life, and they have been doing it for years.

There is a slightly more global perspective here than Reddit so it's less common that there will be echo chambers supporting Western propaganda. People falling for Israeli propaganda today haven't been paying attention, or they agree with Israels goal of eliminating Palestine. Anyone that has been looking into the situation for longer than a few years has seen every line, every spin, every rationalization Israel can make.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You got your sides mixed up, it's been 80 years of terrorism, subjugation, blockades, land grabs, against the Palestinian people, and the Palestinians have a right to ensure their security. Have you considered why Israel needs to 'defend itself'? Why do you think Palestinian people have been fighting for 80 years?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

What does yours and your fiance's religious differences have to do with it? Many Jewish people think the Israeli state is violent and illegitimate. There maybe some shills here, but is it possible that there are just more users aware of the history than you are used to? A lot of users are here because they don't buy into the Western propaganda that inundates Reddit and most English media, not that we are anti-west shills. There are many perspectives in the world outside of the US and western countries, millions of people are in agreement in their desire for Palestinian freedom and the end of Israeli state genocide.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago

He isn't representative of conservatives as a whole, but the rhetoric pushed by many prominent Republicans is exactly the sort of propaganda to inspire these actions.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well if it helps ease your mind, he is clearly mentally unwell, not any sort of organization planning strategic moves. Similar murders have happened for a while.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago

I love when I read some legal bs and they end with something like "we have previously found the complainer to be full of shit."

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 years ago

I agree with your comment and feel that sadness but also laughed at the joke, the human psyche is not made for modern times and I feel a bit broken.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I didn't say the US was fascist, I'm saying our world is controlled by hoards of wealth and nearly all state actions are to protect that wealth and the people that hold it at the cost of the well-being of the proletariat.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We live under a hostile occupation by security forces employed by the wealthy class, there are deaths everyday due to the systems maintained by wealth and greed.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

It's always "this small test just wouldn't work on a larger scale, so let's never try at all."

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