I've never heard that about the M9. I had one of the original M9s (think it was late 80s/early 90s) for years with probably 10k+ rounds through it and never had an issue. Anecdotal, I know, but given I've never heard of widespread issues with the gun I'm finding this claim hard to believe.
Do you have a link to a study/article about this? Curious if there's something I should be on the lookout for, as I am quite partial to that particular design.
100%. Sig's handling of this is, without a doubt, going to be a landmark case study in how not to handle public relations. People getting communications degrees 50 years from now are going to read about it.
It's around 7:30, he measures from the at-rest position to the wall. The screw is later put in to "barely press" into the wall. Definitely not very scientific, but I get what condition he's trying to simulate. The take-up does nothing, but when you hit the wall you are starting to put pressure on the seer. The implication here is any pressure on the seer combined with impacts to the slide can cause a discharge.
I expect there to be a flurry of videos trying to reproduce this on various 320 models. Should be an interesting week, even if the end result is bad news for Sig and 320 owners.
It isn't at rest, the screw basically holds the trigger at the wall. I think he says that near the beginning of the video. All the take-up is out, so this is simulating what happens if your trigger has some pressure on it, but not enough to push it past the break.
Some pressure can be put on the trigger easily in some holsters, which is why I never felt comfortable carrying the thing. Even if I knew for sure my 320 didn't have this problem, it was still too much of a risk to me that if something snagged the trigger there'd be no external safety to make sure it couldn't discharge.
The M17/M18 does have such a safety, but my understanding is that the safety is just on the trigger itself. If this problem is real, it's possible that the same thing could happen anyway; the striker is always in tension and if the safety was a bit out of spec then the trigger could be put into the same position as shown in the video.
The video is not terribly scientific, but hopefully some of the other gun YouTubers will try to corroborate it as well and more data will come out. MoistCr1TiKaL made a video about it a few hours ago, so this is officially a mainstream issue that gets clicks. Just from the collections on the dozen or so gun channels I'm aware of, there's a sample size of many dozens of 320s to test with.
The Battletech books from before the Clan invasion had female characters written almost exclusively to be love interests. I'm re-reading them all and boy, are those parts cringe. There's only a dozen or so books pre-Clan, but if you read them you'll see what I mean. Most of the time, those characters can't pass the Bechdel test in scenes by themselves; they're constantly thinking about a male love interest no matter what's happening.
The Clans have a totally different culture where people are bred in vats rather than being born naturally, and are all about glory and combat. Sex exists for fun, but not romantic relationships (mostly). As a side effect, the authors of those books had to write female characters that didn't revolve around a man.
Derp, thanks! Not sure if that was autocorrect or just me being a bad speller.
It seems like you think that all of America is similar to NYC, during a mayoral race against a famously shitty incumbent. Otherwise, idk why you would post that image.
If you ran a candidate for the Democratic Socialist party in every mayoral race in America, I would bet hard cash that better than 90% of them would lose. They wouldn't lose because of their ideas or policies, they'd lose because they picked a party name that will terminate thought for >60% of the voting population.
Maybe after another 2 decades of slowly getting Democratic Socialists into office you could move that needle. In that time, the facists are going to burn all of this down, so I really don't see any** advantage in sticking with the name. We need these policies now and idc how we get them.
You're giving way too much credit to like, 60% of the country. A wide majority of voters do not respond logically, they respond emotionally. NYC is a tiny fraction of the voting population, and assuming that the messaging used there will work in most of the rest of the country is silly.
Gotta meet people where they are man, and purity doesn't sell as well as familiarity. Disregarding reality handicaps a movement.
It's really not, and you can look at Trump as the perfect example. He came out and said all the awful shit that Nazis and Klan members believed but rebranded it as MAGA. Socialists could do the same thing, so easily. Just pick a new phrase/word and keep almost everything other tenet the same. Call it "Liberty Forever" and talk about how mandatory profit sharing "guarantees your right to work and access to a free market." It would be so fucking effective.
Messaging is important.
That's a nice sentiment, but it would have to overcome 100+ years of indoctrination that socialism==bad on top of the avalanche of attacks from the powers that be. Those attacks are going to come regardless, so insisting on playing hard mode by using the word socialist isn't likely to result in good outcomes.
I'd rather see the tenets of socialism win by another name, frankly. The outcome is a lot more important than the word.
No argument there, but messaging is important to be effective. Most US voters are going to reflexively balk at the word "socialist" and will stop listening to anything else being said. It's unfortunate, but it's reality.
I think they'd actually agree with the tenets of socialism if they could get past the reflex though. For example, if "owning the means of production" were packaged as, "a fair share" they'd be more likely to listen. Silly, but you have to meet people where they are to be effective.
Mamdani talking about issues everyone but the rich would agree with is great, and I'm happy to see the upswell of support for it. I still think he'd lose in most other places in the US though, the word "socialist" just carries too much of a stigma outside the major metro areas.
Thanks for sharing. That GAO report is pretty old, and seems to indicate potential issues with the first gen M9s. Not sure how much of that is still relevant today, I'm pretty sure my M9 was made after that report came out.
The CNA study is more interesting and relevant but kinda hard to interpret. There's a lot of externalities in there, apparently only 64% of soldiers were issued cleaning kits with their weapons, and 23% used nonstandard lubricant. The second one is interesting because later on the study found that those using nonstandard lube were 21x more likely to experience malfunctions. I honestly wonder if "nonstandard" lube was KY jelly for a lot of those guys; Army grunts are pretty famously stupid when it comes to gun maintenance.
Don't know that there's enough here to change my mind on reliability. Clearly the M9 was the least satisfactory part of their kit, but I'm not sure that it was due to a problem with the gun itself. Double-action is a legit downside, so I can't fault them for being unhappy with it; if they want to be able to draw and fire with a quick trigger pull, the M9 ain't it.