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How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Society definitely sees your pet and your children as part of your property until they are an adult

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

where they will bring loot back to disadvantaged members of the pack

That's cute -- I think humans do that too in smaller groups

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

True, and I know that in Cyprus -- prospective parents have to first get blood tests proving that they're both not carriers for Thalassemia

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Good point, I didn't distinguish between owners and breeders, nor the types of breeder ideologies.

If we extrapolate that to humans, would you be for a "good doctor" who tries to knock-in genes that would make your children smarter and healthier, versus say, a "bad doctor" who knocks in whatever superficial characteristics you want.

Or would you be against the idea of designer children completely, because you ultimately would not trust that any genes you or any expert selects for, would actually be beneficial for your great-great-grandchildren?

I'm not sure what side of the debate I lie on here, tbh

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How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't cats and dogs freely mate with their kin, even in the wild?

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, what a well-sourced answer!

Though it does not seem to land on any one conclusion about nature vs nurture

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is an ideal, but I'm not sure if it's reality

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just because it’s morally abhorrent, but also because it doesn’t work

wait, why? In dogs it took 5-6 generations to see general behavioral characteristics. Why can't the same be true in humans?

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like your comment a lot, I just have to admit I have no idea what peoyeho is, despite searching

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really is a complex dynamic. I guess, would you like to live in a human zoo, if you had every need taken care of?

Some part of me revolts at the idea, whilst another might shrug at it and wait eagerly for my daily human treat.

How can we reconcile the idea that Eugenics in Humans is bad, but in Dogs it's acceptable (given the 150 years of breeds with specific characteristics)? in c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Yes and no. Plenty of good pet owners out there, and I'd say the bad ones are the exceptions.

I just wonder if the good pet owners would select their children under the same scrutiny that they select their pets, if the choice was offered. I think they would, and... I probably would too?