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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

using art without permission

Every artist does this all the time. The actual problem is "IP" - a system of capitalist control whereby the rich control everything and workers are still exploited.

put the workers whose skills were stolen out of a job.

Nobody can steal another person's skills. If people are losing their jobs, the problem is being forced to serve capital in order to survive. That's a much bigger and more important problem than "AI slop".

Without artists, gen AI would have nothing to train on.

Without artists, artists would have nothing to train on. But in reality artists will always exist.

wage theft

This is the biggest form of theft under capitalism but somehow people only complain about it in terms of "AI". Again this is a direct result of the exploitation of worker by capital. There is nothing inherently exploitative about making art on a computer (apart from the manufacturing of the computer which is extremely exploitative).

And the other end that gets hate is the people who consider themselves to be better than artists because the prompt they put into an LLM created an image that they consider to be better than what artists make. They’re jealous of people creating something and want the reward without putting in the effort so they can hold it over others.

If this is even real? It seems like two completely difference category. And more importantly who cares? Petty AF.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The way the corporations have used...

This is true of everything under capitalism. And it doesn't mean the art is slop.

For example our phones are made by slave labor but nobody is posting memes about how all phones are slop. Maybe they should do. It would be a better cause than crying about generated art.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ok yeah. That's what they said about the hammer. It's a disservice to the fine artisans using rocks.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Bruh a "stolen" recipe made by a robot tastes exactly the same as a purchased recipe made by a human. "Love" is not actually a real ingredient in a meal.

And all things being equal... I would rather have a robot serve me than coerce some human.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

The actual problem is the exploitative system of "IP" and having to serve capital in order to survive, not people making pictures with computers.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, it is. We live in capitalism.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Authenticity" is a myth. Everything is "plagarized". There's no major difference between someone creating art with a computer or with a paint bush.

The disturbed individual (or individuals) that painted the bathroom of my primary school with feces created something more artful than any AI slop could ever be.

Ok weirdo. Enjoy your literal poop!

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's called capitalism. There are no ethics in how anything is ever created. If you're mad about people being exploited, then fight capitalism.

But poeple just sound corny hating on every work of generated art. It's very possible to make nice pictures and videos with a computer.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Idiot: "AI" will save us all!

Genius: "AI" is complete slop!!

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. There is no "AI".
  2. There's nothing inherently wrong or bad with generated art. The assumption that generated art is "slop" is literally the inverted assumption that "AI" will save us. But in reality there's lots of cool pictures and many cool videos that were generated.
  3. If you're mad about copyright/exploitation, the actual problem has always been capitalism.
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