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And, roughly 20 years later, the internet has an arguably equally infamous meme answer:

An anime vtuber screaming "Plap Plap Plap GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3uPPNHVma5Y

So uh, I guess this meme has come full circle and is now in a sense, the internet growing to adult age and answering itself?

...when the right to free speech and the right to peaceably assemble has literally never been respected ever in the history of the country.

Not immediately after the country was founded and the Alien and Sedition acts were passed.

Yeah, exactly, anyone paying attention in US History class should have picked up on this pretty quickly, that the US nearly immediately showed that it isn't actually committed to to Bill of Rights with some kind of religious level of universal reverence, even though it is strongly implied that they were.

Bill of Rights ratified in 1791.

Alien and Sedition Acts passed in 1798.

Yes, they were later repealed, but thats only 7 years for a 180 about-face when its expedient.

All your other examples are good as well, what particularly sticks out to me is that we uh, we treated Japanese immigrants, who'd done nothing wrong...we gave them worse internment conditions than we gave to actual German PoWs.

To add to your list, we barely even mention or teach just... how we have done mass deportation of Hispanics before, during the Great Depression... and it doesn't even really have a name, doesn't even have little bullet point sub header title.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/09/08/437579834/mass-deportation-may-sound-unlikely-but-its-happened-before

I guess I got lucky in a sense, by chancing to get a US History / AP US History teacher who was an Anarchist... set me on the path of breaking out of my right-wing upbringing.

DuckStation is in flatpak form, on flathub, right now, official version.

https://flathub.org/apps/org.duckstation.DuckStation

I mean, I too would get very, very annoyed by a tiny minority of overall users complaining about not being able to deploy/use my software in a way that ... there is a functional alternative to... and I am not an expert in their particular preffered use case.

The way I am reading this is that he has removed PKGBUILD, and that entirely dropping linux overall is basically a threat, not necessarily a promise.

Obviously that is my subjective interpretation, but it is my interpretation, thus I find the post title ... maybe not the most accurate.

Obviously nuking all linux support would be doing massive excess splash damage to unintended targets, and I do think he's acting a bit rashly, but at the same time, I completely empathize and sympathize with being constantly bothered by people with very specific demands... again, in a case where there is a viable alternative.

But, I also think a potentially better solution to all this would seem to be for him to just allow a fork or downstream version of DuckStation, just publically say "I'm not supporting PKGBUILD/Arch, if Arch people wanna figure it out, go nuts."

I thought that was Michael Jordan who was well known for that, and popularized it first?

Yep.

'They'.

I mean of course 'they', I totally wasn't personally there or anything.

Nope, no sir mister officer sir.

But uh yeah anyway, you may still be able to find video compilations of the SPD going fucking nuts...

They were blackbagging people who were either good agitators that didn't actually violate any laws, or just people who were just literally innocent victims that became de facto 'good agitators' by everyone seeing what cops did to them.

All the disappeared into unmarked vans shit you see going on with ICE now? Yeah that was all done at BLM protests in Seattle, Portland, around the country.

Typically, they do a 72 hour hold and release without charges or bs charges like resisting arrest, or just existing in a zone that you were ordered to disperse from, while they also physically prevented you from leaving.

They were in panic mode, their orders were to disperse the crowds, but they literally couldn't do it at an effective scale without breaking the law themsemselves...

Which is why I also wasn't joking about them burning their own records at the Cap Hill SPD HQ.

For years, it has been known that there were highly suspect emails and other communications between the mayor, Chief of Police, internally within the police... but they all got mysteriously lost or deleted, and the cops investigated themselves and found nothing wrong...

Likely because they documented their own crimes, all the way up to the mayor, in addition to your normal corruption of cops giving themselves overtime pay for bs reasons, etc.

Here's how America "works":

Fuck you, there is barely any public transportation, and anyone who uses it or some non personal csr transist system is literally hated by most of society.

Oh and of course, cost of housing goes up exponentially as you try to live closer to where jobs actually exist.

Also, cars are all wildly unaffordable, and most places won't even consider hiring you if you don't have one.

Its actually up to 68% now.

The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle was named such, because after days of the cops routinely brutalizing and blackbagging both protestors and random uninvolved people...

The people laid seige (I mean a literal siege of human bodies) to the nearby police HQ, to the extent that it was abadoned by the Seattle Police who burned a bunch of documents, packed their shit into a convoy and withdrew from their own building in the dead of night.

So, it was an autonomous zone, as local law enforcement had just run away with their tail between their legs.

Metric - Handshakes

Buy this car to drive to work

Drive to work to pay for this car

Buy this car to drive to work

Drive to work

Sorry for not replying to this for a while, been busy/distracted.

Basically: Ah, I have misunderstood you somewhat, thank you for the corrections, and well basically I agree completely.

Only possibly thing I could add is that uh... yeah, Ender's version of 'against self interest'... is itself potentially genocidal to humanity, it is very extreme, so... yeah that aspect of it is pretty rare in fiction, its usually nowhere near that grand...

So yeah I agree, Ender probably is not the best example of a more 'normal' version of that.

Completely agree.

We are very rapidly heading toward full on cyberpunk dystopia.

Get your EM grenades ready, rofl.

Hey thanks for an actual link!

I am on mobile, have both bad vision and a fucked up wrist, scrolling through a huge thread is physically difficult for me.