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Ketchup is a corn+tomato fruigetable smoothie, HFCS babyyyyyyy!

No?

Krita picks a DE lane, stays with it, and it works well?

I run Krita on a Gnome DE fairly often... works fine?

I've never noticed a serious problem.

Its got detailed build documentation if you want to build it, its got an appimage that actually works, a flatpak that works fine.

You are the one that brought up DE support as an analogy to... the actual core functions of an app working or not working properly.

Krita has no problems on either of those fronts... its entirely possible to get an app from basically one DE working in another in a fairly straightforward to the user way, if you know how to actually properly set up an app image or flatpak... which the Krita team does.

Like uh, if you picked an older, buggier app designed for KDE, that hasn't been updated in a decade, and barfs all over modern KDE or Gnome or w/e then yeah, yeah I'd say that app is no longer well supported on linux, in general, as most linux users generally use at least a fairly recent version of either Gnome or KDE.

You're just fully committing to your red herring / non sequitur argument here, not really sure why.

Ads were there from the beginning of the... broad public internet.

I remember having to load them up over a 56k modem, and then shortly thereafter learning how to block javascript... in the mid/late 90s.

But yes, roughly by about 2010 - 12, the entire internet had just become... SEO, AdServing engines, everything is an ad platform on the surface, but actually highly, highly specific and refined ways of data profiling people for all kinds of purposes, selling that data to anyone.

I don't know exactly where you could or should draw the line on ... at what point it tipped from reasonable to horrific.

Eh, I like dogs and fire.

I don't know that they did, I am just remarking on the applicability of tactics and strategies broadly.

You can break up a friend group, or online discussion, or alliance between nation states, or a whole bunch of other things, if your general concept is to drive wedges into the cracks of any kind of 'group-thing' that you in some sense seek to defeat or influence.

Multi platform apps often do a shoddy job of fully and/or properly supporting linux, this is very common.

So common that WINE and Proton exist, to just reroute around that problem without forcing every software dev to also become a linux software dev.

The NM is yet another example of that, its honestly not even really remarkable, its to be expected from devs that are entirely used to developing on windows.

Do some linux devs also do a bad job of properly supporting a full array of DEs? X11 vs Wayland?

Yep, that's pretty common as well, this is why many serious distros at least attempt to pick sets of prebundled software, that work best with the DEs and WMs they support fully support, or even develop their own apps, or contribute to apps they like, such that the overall user experience on their distro is less janky and more congruent.

This entire conversation stems from me pointing out there already is a linux native alternative that functions much better.

I am not making the perfect the enemy of the good.

That really only makes sense as a framing of an issue where there is ... one big, semi-permanent choice or policy or something that will affect a whole lot of people.

This isn't that, this is picking between two free alternatives.

It isn't that its not good enough because Nexus is not an underdog.

Its that its not good enough because its not good enough.

I look forward to the Nexus Manager getting better over time, I hope that it does!

But at the current moment, it isn't so great as a native linux app.

I was (and have been) succesfully modding CyberPunk 2077 for about a year ago now, with Limo, despite it not having 'official support' in the form of a preconfigured preset.

You just have to set up the deployers right, and point them at the right directory in your version of the game.

All on Bazzite, on a Deck.

I think my custom FONV mod count is approaching 200 now, lol.

It has occured to me that I should probably at some point just make a Viva New Vegas style guide for how to do this with Limo, instead of MO2, as the Mirelurked version of VNV does.

Fortunately, most HL2 mods were/are nowhere near that big, even the vast majority of total conversions.

Go play Minerva if you never did.

Tea would be nice.

Chai with some lavender notes might hit the spot.

... No, not just for me, take a break once in a while!

Divide and conquer works both ways.

Twitter and Facebook were the mistakes.