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So, again, Kernel level AC can be, and routinely is defeated, all the time.

This is easy to verify with a simple websearch and maybe 30 minutes of time, I don't want to directly link to where you can purchase working cheats/hacks/methods that can defeat Kernel AC, because I do not want such things to proliferate.

But you appear to be claiming the competetive scene for CS has introduced a Kernel level AC.

I cannot find this, this does not appear to be true, but I could be wrong, could you please source this claim?

I cannot find a competetive CS community or league or tournament that has... somehow rolled their own custom version of CS, overlayed with some other AC, on top of VAC.

Frankly, I don't see how this would be possible without somehow forking CS, and then either stripping out or modifying VAC... as ... two AC systems working at the same time are nearly 100% guaranteed to fight each other, and class the actions of the other AC... as cheats and hacks.

Its essentially analagous to how, 15 to 20 years ago, if you had McAfee and Norton and whatever other realtime, always active, system level anti virus software running, simultaneously... they would fight eachother, treat the other AV system as a virus, as malware.

...

All I can find is CS communities discussing the problem broadly, mixed with a lot of speculation that a recent VAC overhaul now does include Kernel AC... despite there being no actual evidence for this, beyond the collective bias and fallacious logic that if an AC becomes more effective, the only possible explanation is that it must be because of Kernel access.

What Valve actually did, was hook up AI to greatly enhance its serverside cheat detection capabilities and accuracy... one of the rare actually good use cases of AI as it relates to cybersec.

It seems to have improved their, again, server side heuristic detection abilities... without needing Kernel level access.

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So yeah, please source your claim.

Unlike my easily verifiable 'claim' that I do not wsnt to cite for cybersec reasons, your claim should not have that problem at all.

Oh dear god that last one is absolutely diabolical!

Tastes metallic, like copper, like blood, but burning, btw.

Just in case anyone wants to know, lol.

So basically this is the extreme version of putting a sleeping person's hand in a glass of warm water.

Oh how I wish I could have done that.

Not sure how you could read this and come away with the idea that I do believe that...

I am talking about the subset of gamers that go on internet forums and discord servers and make false, unsupported claims as to the effectiveness or necessity or Kernel AC over other forms of AC, tell people this just is how it is now, get with the program, ~~eat the bugs~~, play the spyware game, its fine, everyone is doing it.

I mean, I have just actually heard that line irl, from an actual corporate email.

I'm just trying to be punny and lewd at the same time =P

But yes, I do agree that a third limb with grasping abilities would be useful in general, in many situations.

Oh wait... oh no. That means...

Catgirl has entered the chat

Catboy has entered the chat

Run, they're in heat!

I mean, I'd say two hands and one mouth, hahahah!

Yep.

I would argue those people are extremely silly, but apparently some people just literally do not value privacy, data security, at all.

I guess we'll see how well that works out with fascists running the show now, surely they'll only go after the bad ~~immigrants~~ gamers!

Are you maybe a woman who had to stop using their period tracker app?

A trans person who had the audacity to exist, while being trans?

... Do you play video games on the same PC you do everything else on?

To the first chunk:

I mean yeah, thats why I said longest lived, not 'most popular'.

But I am glad you agree that... VAC is reasonable, and works pretty darn well.

But this leads into Part 2...

Why does VAC work pretty darn well?

Beyond the technicals of the methods of AC...

Because if you fuckup bad enough, your entire Steam Library can be deleted.

Steam is a platform.

Every single other major company that is trying to force Kernel AC on the PC market is acting as if they do, or should just also be the de facto platform, as they are on consoles.

Yep, cheat on Xbox or PS and your account can get banned there too... but a PC is more than a gaming console, has a lot more private stuff on it than one, typically.

Valve are PC natives so they never pushed for Kernel AC.

They just allow, and now warn you about Kernel AC from other mega publishers on their platform, and these other game publishers.

Their whole thing is that they want you to use their platform instead of Steam. They've pretty much all done it at this point, at least tried... Ubisoft, Rockstar, MSFT/GFWL, ActBlizz (now technically MSFT but w/e), etc etc etc

And they want to force Kernel AC down your throat on your PC as well as consoles... because it gives them more data, which they can use themselves, and sell to data brokers.

... Anyway, the funniest part?

EAC and BattleEye have offered full support to game devs to get their AC working on linux via Proton... for 3 to 4 years now.

It comes with their licensing agreements.

But management almost never cares to tell development to actually use this support thst they are already paying for!

... Because they get lots of money from MSFT, and MSFT hates Linux.

Also, if you go on areweanticheatyet ... you can see that almost every single AC system of any kind, in the last 10 years... has at least one game that showcases it working on Linux.

This means that it is provably, entirely possible to get nearly all AC systems working on Linux, as some game dev team has done this.

Its just that most game dev teams, under most management... are not directed to.

There is no real technical reason why AC cannot be made to work in a satisfactory way on Linux.

At best, it is dev/management laziness/nonprioritization, at worst, it is publishers not wanting to upset MSFT, or still pursuing their idea of what should be normalized in terms of a gaming distribution platform, and the backend business side of profiting from dataharvesting.