sigmaklimgrindset

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The consensus seems to be that people that voted democrat in 2020 voted republican this time because they experienced inflation under Biden that think it was his fault.

What consensus is saying this? Outside of Latino men and first time voters shifting to Trump, most analysis (so far) is that the Democrats lost around 10-15 million votes from 2020, compared to Trump losing only 2 million. If all the Dems/Undecideds moved to Trump, he would have not lost voters.

What was the Red vs Blue turnout in Nebraska in 2020 vs 2024, I bet that would go a long way to explain why the union leader lost.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm really not trying to be conspiracy brained, seriously, but won't the DNC also be making money from a Trump presidency? Stocks/private contracts of the DNC executives aside, don't they also get huge amounts of donations when they're the "opposition"?

I'm not saying they purposely ran a shitty campaign, but they clearly have a "silver lining" for if Trump won compared to us normies. Man, it's so fucked, please someone give me evidence to the contrary, I beg.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, Trump's popularity went down with white voters (albeit only 2-4 points depending on male or female) but gained ground in Latino and "other unidentified" minorities. He also actually lost older voters too.

But I think the biggest surprise for me is that Trump gained more of the new voters than Harris. And while I don't have a gender breakdown from that, I wonder if a lot of those were males.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

No jokes 😡

(no but seriously I don't think anyone in the "Hitler Youth" post is in a joking mood :,) )

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They shouldn't have to.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 67 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your list is the issues that men are actually facing, but what OP posted is what the clout chasing "alpha influencers" tout as "men's actual problems".

For everyone's sake, we need to start reclaiming men's spaces from these Andrew Taint-wannabe's, and towards people like you. They don't care about anything but their bank accounts.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

No worries, I love discussing numbers, and elections always give some great statistical insight, no matter where in the world it is.

My solace today is being able to look at the numbers and intellectualize some of the outcomes. Otherwise I'd just be depressed all day :')

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

Ok, I see your point. You're not wrong here. But I'm always surprised at how averse US politicians are to anything perceived as left wing populism, while they tolerate (or even eat up) the right wing version.

Maybe it's a remnant of McCarthyism.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, this might be a sign that I do need to up my dosage 😭

Also, I agree with you.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No you're fair to do so, here's the demographic breakdowns and differences between 2020 and 2024 from NBC exit polls.

The particular thing to note is that Trump support jumped from 36% to 42% in the 18-29 demographic, while the other age groups remained steady, this is what I think the tweet is going off of.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not going to say that the Latino shift isn't huge, but this really feels like a strawman (to a certain extent). Even without the full 2024 turnout numbers, we know less people turned out to vote than 2020. I think NBC last night said Harris was projected to have 15 million less votes than Biden, and Trump voter numbers were steady, so I don't think it all went to Trump.

There are multiple factors that went into the outcome we have today, and only mentioning the Latino men or the pro-Palestine constituents and ignoring the failures of the DNC (starting with not having a convention) feels really weird.

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