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In short: Yes. It's dragging me down, too.

I'd like to focus on positivity. I mean negativity comes with strong emotions and I don't want to get rid of it. But I'd like to see more positive things, too. People sharing side projects and nice things they've done and created. There needs to be a better balance. Because this doesn't depict life or the entire perspective.

Ah, alright. Yeah interaction of medication is a complicated thing. I'd advise you to ask your specific questions to a doctor. Is it okay to take them at the same time, is it okay on an empty stomach, is it okay for my liver to take that dose of paracetamol x-times in a month... Maybe they suggest an alternative to Paracetamol that works better and has less side-effects, thus being more appropriate for you, individually. And I think doctors have access to databases and general recommendations concerning drugs and reciprocity and (case) studies. They're probably more qualified to make a judgement and know about possible superior alternatives. (If there are any.)

They can also just test your blood and see if your liver is fine with what it's been subjected to.

Yeah, I'd say abstaining from the medication for months and still having the same headaches pretty much rules out it being the cause of that.

I hope you'll be granted an appropriate solution to your problem. Living with regular pain... isn't nice.

Well that paper only says it's theoretically not possible to completely eliminate hallucination. That doesn't mean it can be migitated and reduced to the point of insignificance. I think fabricating things is part of creativity. I mean LLMs are supposed to come up with new text. But maybe they're not really incentivised to differentiate between fact and fiction. I mean they have been trained on fictional content, too. I think the main problem is to control when to stick close to facts and when to be creative. Sure, I'd agree that we can't make them infallible. But there's probably quite some room for improvement. (And I don't really agree with the premise of the paper that it's caused solely from shortcomings in the training data. It's an inherent problem in being creative and that the world also consists of fiction and opinions and so much more than factual statements... But the training data quality and bias also has a severe effect.)

That paper is interesting. Thanks!

But I really fail to grasp the diagonal argument. Can we really choose the ground truth function f arbitrarily? Doesn't that just mean given arbitrary realities, there aren't hallucination-free LLMs in all of them? But I don't really care if there's a world where 1+1=2 and simultaneously 1+1=3 and there can't be an LLM telling the "truth" in that world... I think they need to narrow down "f". To me a reality needs to fulfill certain requirements. Like being contradiction free etc. And they'd need to prove that Cantor applies to that subset of "f".

And secondly: Why does the LLM need to decide between true and false? Can't it not just say "I don't know?" I think that'd immediately ruin their premise, too. Because they only look at LLMs who don't ever refuse and have to decide on a truth.

I think this is more related to Gödel's incompleteness theorem, which somehow isn't mentioned in the paper. I'm not a proper scientist and didn't really understand it, so I might be wrong with all of that. But it doesn't feel correct to me. And I mean the paper hasn't been cited or peer-reviewed (as of now). So it's more like just their opinion, anyways. I say (if their maths is correct) they just proved that there can't be an LLM that knows everything in any possible and impossible world. That doesn't quite apply because LLMs that don't know everything are useful, too. And we're concerned with one specific reality here that has some limitations. Like physics, objectivity or consistency.

Talk do your doctor.

a) Paracetamol on it's own isn't healty for your liver if taken regularly. I don't know the specifics or if there is a safe dose.

b) Headache is one of the adverse drug effects of Paracetamol. Maybe you're getting part of your headaches from it in the first place.

I get you. But they're the flagship instance. At least they used to be. They shape the brand identity of whole Lemmy. And that's being tankie and having a culture that could be nice, but regularly isn't. So everyone on the internet knows Lemmy isn't really something I want to subject myself to. And if we're being honest, alsmost nobody knows the fine nuances of power abuse on specific instances. It's just "Lemmy" that this gets attributed to.

Every interaction here represents Lemmy. Some disproportionately so.

And we've established, me leaving (which I've done) is not gonna change anything about it. The communities are still amongst the largest and where most of the users are, and also attracting the new users.

Your argumantation would be perfectly valid if lemmy.ml were some small instance that's unheard of by most users. Or blocked by the rest of the network. We could ignore them then, let them do their own thing like the Fediverse does with a few nazi and conspiracy instances. But this isn't the case here.

Regarding money and doing it "for the fun of it": That's not correct. They get money for two or three full-time jobs from the NLNet fund and the EU. They could be having fun, too. But they definitely also get a substancial amount of money for it.

Concerning the 4chan example: That's on point. 4chan is the epitome of echo chamber and incel culture. That's mainly because there's no one else. They left. And now, why would anyone else visit a place like that in the first place? I'd rather not Lemmy become like that. Do you?

And am I supposed to let other people be subject to that, too? Let people like that drag down Lemmy as a whole? Shouldn't I have a nice and welcoming place on the internet for me and my friends?

Do you like echo chambers? If you want my perspective: I have until now recommended Lemmy to exactly zero of my friends. Because of things like this. Lemmy has quite some potential. But it just has so many issues to tackle and the culture here just isn't what appeals to "normal" people. If other people share my experience, that's exactly why Lemmy still is below 50k active users and super small.

Sure. I moved away from the .ml communities a few weeks ago because I think it's the right thing to do (for me). It's just dragging down everyone and making Lemmy a worse place. Like we see constantly with all the posts like this. Should we (the people who want more than an echo chamber, and want fair and honest discussions) all abandon Lemmy?

Probably !support@lemmy.world

Go to lemmy.world and have a look at the Sidebar. That's where instances publish info like that. And they list several methods to contact them, there.

I don't think so. It's a bit like being bullied and your friends are being bullied, too. What do you do? Leave the room and be happy they bully your friends and not you? Keep silent which ultimately enables them? No. You're being vocal about it. You warn your friends not to go in there. And you try to do sth about it. In the end it's the bullies who should leave, not the nice people. Or the whole place is doomed and just getting worse.

My first idea would be to have users report posts and ping a random sample of like 20 active and currently online users of the community and have them decide (democratically). That way prevents brigading and groups collectively mobbing or harassing other users. It'd be somewhat similar to a jury in court. And we obviously can't ask everyone because that takes too much time, and sometimes content needs to be moderated asap.

You're 100% right OP. Don't let the people tell you it's a you problem and you should leave. It's exactly like you said (in my opinion.) If at all, it's the bad people who should leave. Not the nice ones and the ones calling out the bullshit.

Nothing changes if the just people keep silent and let bigotry or whatever just happen. It just makes the whole place become worse. And I'd say it's warranted to speak up or do something. And as far as I heard you're not the only one complaining.

Are you referring to me or BigFig? I'm neither a mile (I'm European, so we use the metric system), nor a mole. If you make me choose an animal, I'd like to be an alpaca. And I'd be willing to do a captcha to prove to you that I'm not a bot.