roguetrick

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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I don't really understand. It's not a position I hold so it's not a conclusion I wish to make. If you believe killing animals for meat is a violation of a fundamental right, it's also a violation of that right to use other animal products.

I find endorsement for more restrictive diets for environmental or utilitarian(reduce animal suffering) reasons to be fine. If, however, you believe that eating meat is murder because animals have a right to live, it's disingenuous not to be vegan.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Build a potemkin village on it.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What I'm saying is, even on a small farm, you need to cull male chicks and unproductive hens to feed yourself, not even considering feeding other people. That's how it's always worked since the domestication of the chicken.

Most small farmers buy chicks that are already sexed for this reason.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If you believe animals have a fundamental right to life, you logically must be vegan. Full stop. I believe in preventing suffering of animals, but I don't believe they have a fundamental right to life.

Edit: I want to give a side example of milk production without killing unproductive animals/males. In India, since BJP vigilantes will attack farmers transporting animals to slaughter, farmers instead abandon their cows, which usually die from dehydration or disease and sometimes wander the streets of the cities. There are consequently way more stay bulls attacking people at random as well. I honestly think that practice is worse than killing the cattle.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mostly seems to be shipping concentrate at exactly 0 degrees Celsius to Europe and Australia.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Supposedly some of it goes to Oregon, but for the most part I think the US isn't part of this supply chain.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Pretty wild! I suppose it’s efficient or they wouldn’t be doing it.

Seems to be, considering they are running several juice ships pretty much constantly. I imagine well handled frozen juice concentrate has a lower chance to spoil than whole fruit and takes up a lot less space, but packaging it in Brazil just to transport it to Australia isn't worth it compared to shipping the juice, putting it on trucks, and letting Australia package it.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Both Qatar and Israel are major US strategic military allies.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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