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[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The problem is not with the federated model, per se. Matrix is federated and it has 100M+ users.

The problem is a cultural one: Mastodon promoted federation along the idea that instances should be aligned with its member's identity. It's a mistake of their own doing, which was reflected on their own UX and marketing copy for a long time.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

You are confusing cause and effect and you are making a pointless distinction.

If all it took to qualify as a non-profit was to eliminate profit redistribution, we would have every sole proprietorship or small LLC entity turning itself to a 503, and then distributing its excess profit as salaries.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The software needs to be able to compete with Bluesky and right now it quite simply does not.

Mastodon has a 5 year headstart over Bluesky. Bluesky has more users, large players already getting into it and is raising money and is not ashamed to to be actively looking for a business model.

Meanwhile, Mastodon completely blew the opportunity it got when Musk bought Twitter and keeps repeating the same mistake of preaching to the converted.

What makes you think that more money would solve it? Their problem is not a lack of money, but a lack of ambition.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. The money wasn't donated yet. This is their stated goal.

  2. Yes, I am saying that we would be better off by having this money put somewhere else.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I know. The second question is meant to cover this...

[–] rglullis@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Sure. But at the end of the day, economics is just a big game of resource allocation. 5M€ can get you quite a long way, and I'm wondering if we could have better use of those resources than by putting it on Mastodon.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 17 points 7 months ago (28 children)

We need to grow our annual operating budget to €5 million in 2025.

What for?

How many active users are going to be served by mastodon.social and mastodon.online? Is the infrastructure being provided by the companies counted as part of this budget?

How many more users are going to join the Mastodon network of servers thanks to the missing features that are planned to be released this year?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 7 months ago

Trust me, bro. I am not moving the goal posts, bro. All I need is one example that fits exactly what I want so that I can bring myself to contribute with a few dollars per month. No, paying a small business provider that can reinvest the resources to keep the ecosystem open is not the same, bro... If "the commons" don't help, why should I, bro...

Excuses and poor rationalizations.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I think I am ready to give up on this conversation.

The worldviews are too different. It makes no sense to make this distinction about "beneficial to companies" and "beneficial to communities" and it actually seems to me like a misunderstanding of why corporations exist in the first place.

Also, sorry if this is harsh, but you are repeatedly showing an inability of abstract thinking. I talk about the Japanese and your reaction is to ask "where is the Japanese Reddit"? Really? Are you expecting that different cultures will converge to the exact type of equivalent artifacts, just with different colors?

(Anyway, I'd posit that the "Japanese Reddit" is misskey, but I already dread the thought you will respond with some silly pontification about how misskey looks more like Twitter than Reddit)

Maybe it is time for to cut my losses and accept that this whole discussion is a waste of time.

 

I'm working on a tool that aims to do two things:

  • bootstrap Lemmy communities with content from their "equivalent" subreddit

  • help people migrate away from Reddit, by setting up a bot account on Lemmy that can be later taken over by their legitimate reddit owner. The idea is that the bot account would follow the equivalent lemmy communities and "registration" could be as easy as having the reddit user sending a DM to a bot to authenticate themselves.

I'm wondering how the people here would feel about me trying out this tool by mapping /r/python to !python@programming.dev ? My plan would be to set up a Lemmy instance that could exclusively be the home for the bot accounts, and then I would handpick a few posts every day to get them mirrored here, comments included. I also have in the roadmap to have responses to let users on Reddit to be notified of the conversations/replies received on the Lemmy post.

My view of pros/cons:

Pros:

  • Those who are already on Lemmy but stay on Reddit because of specific, niche communities will be able to ditch Reddit entirely.
  • More content in the instance, which would help mitigate the common "I want to move to Lemmy, but the content is not there" complaints.
  • A clearer path to migration and less time discussing "where to go if we are leaving reddit?"
  • Admins who object to this can simply deferate from the mirror instance(s).

Cons:

  • If abused, Lemmy communities might start looking like they are filled with bots only. Not really my intention, this is why I am not planning to fully automate this, but also not a big issue given that admins can easily protect themselves for instances that spam too much.
  • It's a legal grey area (though there are so many repost bots out there and I don't see how anyone would try to enforce copyright claims) whose support is mostly on the hands of reddit users.
  • If people look at it as a tool to help them migrate, we can win them over. If this feels too forced, they will more likely side with Reddit and refuse to migrate.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

(Also, the code is Python/Django so if anyone is interested in contributing just let me know!)

 

I'm working on a tool that aims to do two things:

  • bootstrap Lemmy communities with content from their "equivalent" subreddit

  • help people migrate away from Reddit, by setting up a bot account on Lemmy that can be later taken over by their legitimate reddit owner. The idea is that the bot account would follow the equivalent lemmy communities and "registration" could be as easy as having the reddit user sending a DM to a bot to authenticate themselves.

I'm wondering how the people here would feel about me trying out this tool by mapping /r/rust to !rust@programming.dev ? My plan would be to set up a Lemmy instance that could exclusively be the home for the bot accounts, and then I would handpick a few posts every day to get them mirrored here, comments included. I also have in the roadmap to have responses to let users on Reddit to be notified of the conversations/replies received on the Lemmy post.

My view of pros/cons:

Pros:

  • Those who are already on Lemmy but stay on Reddit because of specific, niche communities will be able to ditch Reddit entirely.
  • More content in the instance, which would help mitigate the common "I want to move to Lemmy, but the content is not there" complaints.
  • A clearer path to migration and less time discussing "where to go if we are leaving reddit?"
  • Admins who object to this can simply deferate from the mirror instance(s).

Cons:

  • If abused, Lemmy communities might start looking like they are filled with bots only. Not really my intention, this is why I am not planning to fully automate this, but also not a big issue given that admins can easily protect themselves for instances that spam too much.
  • It's a legal grey area (though there are so many repost bots out there and I don't see how anyone would try to enforce copyright claims) whose support is mostly on the hands of reddit users.
  • If people look at it as a tool to help them migrate, we can win them over. If this feels too forced, they will more likely side with Reddit and refuse to migrate.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

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