rglullis

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[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I’m not interested in customising the AZ server configuration more than it already is

There would be no customization of Lemmy itself. You'd only have to add a sidecar service.

If you don't want to do it, fine, no one can force you to. But then perhaps it would be nice to be transparent with your users and tell them that the delay in federation can be avoided.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I responded to you before I had my coffee, so I didn't realize that you are one of the admins for aussie.zone.

I will tell you what: I am 100% sure that I can write a service that can work as a bulk message relay and I'm equally sure that I can modify Fediverser's code to make it able to ingest data from the relay. If you want to join Lemmy's Matrix Room, we can chat to see how to best solve this.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

the Lemmy devs are funded by NLNet donations and user donations, no business LW, lemm.ee, lemmy.zip, all of the top 20 or 50 instances are funded via donations

You are looking at this super-tiny space of "the Threadiverse" and taking it as the whole "social media landscape". This is textbook example of selection bias.

How much do you want to bet that we will see a Reddit-like alternative built on ATProto by the end of the year? Which one do you think will have a better chance of success: the application that is starting of a potential userbase 1M MAU or the one with 25M+? How was Bluesky funded? Was it via donations?

Network effect can’t be fought by money

No, but money can buy infrastructure and development which is sorely needed. We are not limited because people don't want to leave the walled gardens. They are eager to leave, but we keep failing to offer them an usable alternative.

The reason that Fediverse doesn't grow is not because of any single particular feature of the other alternatives. It's quite easy to say "Bluesky won over Mastodon because it has better content discovery" or "Matrix is not a good alternative to Discord because it is slow and has a moderation problem", but all of these tiny things are not fundamental issues. They can all be fixed, but they just don't get fixed fast enough because these organizations are lacking in resources compared to the VC funded alternatives.

Funding is like oxygen. Organisms that do not have circulatory systems can only grow to the size of insects. If we keep constraining ourselves to only these very limited sources of funding, we will be forever bound to this tiny insignificant niche space.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There is absolutely nothing in the AP spec that prevents people from pulling data from the outboxes instead of waiting to be pushed.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago

There are no plans beyond that.

Oh, that's just lacking imagination. Here are some ideas:

  • Pay it forward systems, so that an instance can grow at a healthy rate and new accounts are only created after enough donations have been collected.
  • Marketplace where instance admins work as escrow managers. Take 1-2% of the transaction fee and use it to fund development. (Facebook Marketplace is the feature that keeps young people on FB)
  • Private groups. Automatically add/remove users to a group conditional on their payment status.

When we do that it means the free tier needs to be enshittified enough that there is an incentive to upgrade

Does it even make sense to talk about "enshittification" when the basis is an open source system?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Are those stripe_customer_id and stripe_subscription_id in the E-R diagram an indication that there are plans to make any sort of freemium system?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Alright, so I just learned about !fediverse@forum.wedistribute.org. It's a NodeBB instance run by the WeDistribute team, led by @deadsuperhero@lemmy.world and it can interoperate with Lemmy and Mastodon and the mbin family of software.

Can we agree that it is a better fit than any of the existing alternatives?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you prefer to avoid the conversation on the basis of "unpleasantness" instead of facing the arguments that are being presented to you, it's your choice.

But at least show some decency and willingness to admit you were wrong and consider that maybe the best way to get a sustainable, healthy and universal Fediverse (i.e, not just a niche thing that barely reaches 1M MAU) is by having small businesses around?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

And your tone now is pleasant and agreeable.

Now, it certainly isn't.

Again, seemed like a risk to me.

What if I told you that Communick has reached break-even point, and since February it makes more in revenue than it costs to operate?

Oh, that's right, I told you that already! It's just that you didn't react to it. Could it be because it doesn't fit your worldview?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

My tone changed after you refused any form of collaboration and resorted to the most absurd excuses (like the football domain episode).

I wasn't being hostile to you when you came asking if you could have access to the user votes. I thought it was something visible for moderators, but when you said that it was only for admins I even offered to host an instance for you for free. All you needed to do was get a domain name. You refused.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that would be a possibility.

Another thing could be that some of packets are routed out of the optimal path to avoid getting "stuck" in some local maxima? Just a guess, it's been a while since I played with routing tables.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 5 months ago (8 children)

So? I never said I want to make money out of the instances.

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