rglullis

Wouldn’t the first point imply the second, while you disapprove it?

I am not saying I disapprove it. I am saying your behavior is not dependent on "what other people think" and that you are (once again) hiding your real opinions and plans and using "others" as an excuse for your actions.

So, to put it more plainly: I am confident that you will look for any possible justification to move the lemm.ee communities to piefed or the other lemmy instances, despite this yet-another data point that shows that donation-based instances are not sustainable enough and reliable enough in the long term.

At one time I thought community spirit (for what that’s worth) would kind of tilt things in a long-term sustainable direction.

Community is not enough. I wrote that in 2022 with Twitter and Mastodon in mind, but the same principle still applies for Reddit vs Lemmy.

Lots of people say they want to "stick it to the man" but very few are actually going to put in the work and/or money required to actually succeed.

One scenario is hypothetical. The other really happened. It makes no sense to say "they are both true".

Anyway, threads are going to be organized in all the communities, we’ll see what people prefer.

You really think you have no influence on that?

Just as an example: you are still the most prolific poster on the football community at lemm.ee. If I told you that I could go right now and set up a new football instance for it (because you opposed the soccer.forum name, so I got jogabonito.news), would you even consider posting there or would you do what you've done before (created the community on lemm.ee and ignored what was already there?)

It is less likely for LW because they are (in Fediverse scale) "too big to fail" but still possible.

That was available to the lemm.ee admins in our scenario as well.

It is a lot more difficult to get out of burn out than it is to avoid getting there in the first place.

The same issue of lemm.ee, lemmy.zip, or any other instance you've tried to push so far: they will all crumble under their own weight.

They still shut down the instance.

Only the users on lemm.ee are affected by it, in this scenario. It is bad, but the current scenario is much worse.

Drama still happens involving lemm.ee users.

User-only instances are less dependent on each other, defederation is not as big of an issue, so a lot of the drama would go away.

Admins still get burnt out.

Less communities on their instances means less traffic, less activities, less moderation reports (they would have to deal only with users on their own instances) and if even then they are overloaded with work, they could decide to scale down the operation before reaching burning-out point: close the instance for new registrations, make user registration conditional on payment/donation, etc.

This argument applies more to "instance with lots of users and groups" (what we have now) than "communities with lots of users on topic-specific instances", so I don't think this is the problem here.

We can not change "human behavior", so I don't see how/why we should expect things to "be different at .ee" compared to anywhere else.

Doesn’t really solve the issue, admins will all want to manage an instance for groups rather than instance for users as that would avoid much of the drama.

And that is bad why...?

@Blaze@feddit.org (or is it @Blaze@piefed.social now?), I hate to say "I told you so", but I hope you understand now why I was so against recommending people to create communities on lemm.ee, and I especially hope you don't take this a sign that you should start promoting/directing people to create communities on piefed.