rglullis

Sorry, I misread you. I thought you wanted to give away the soccer.forum instance...

Already done it.

To be completely honest, my dislike of AP server software is not restricted to PieFed. I think all of them are an evolutionary dead end and I wish we stopped wasting our time trying to emulate closed social networks.

The first page now has 9 posts by him, 7 by Rose. Whenever I checked the page in the past, the distribution was similar.

As for "making decisions": I am not saying he took any fiat action; I am saying that whenever he revealed his preference or had a chance to exercise any influence in the outcome, he clearly pointed (a) away from LW and (b) away from topic-instance that I was offering.

(Again, I am saying this not as believing I am entitled to anything, just as a matter of fact)

He feels that community lead instances have a better chance of sustainability. What’s wrong with that?

There is nothing "wrong" with it. There is nothing "wrong" with someone who believes the earth is flat.

You have a real chance of a proof of concept with soccer.forum

What else besides "keep the server running and post any content that you find relevant" do you think I should do? Last time I asked you, you said "nothing, just keep doing it until they come".

I've done it for a long time. Not for just one instance, but 5, 6, 8, 10... I was posting to !television@metacritics.zone and then I realized that there was one user on the lemm.ee alternative that was taking every single post from reddit and posting as their own. It's too much, and it's not even authentic. My alien.top bots were also mirroring reddit content, but at least I wasn't pretending to be real people behind them.

I'm tired of pushing it. For now, I'd rather just keep doing it for the things that I'm actually interested here. Right now it's mostly NBA. With the Club World Cup I might post more on the football instance. On the summer break I might take some time to write a proper match-threader, but quite honestly I am more excited about the idea of working on my local-first ActivityPub client or on a custom version of Voyager that can browse both Lemmy and Reddit than anything new for the topic-specific instances.

Communick has fortunately got to break-even point, but it is solely thanks to people interested in Matrix. There are a handful of people interested in Lemmy, so I'm going to keep maintaining it. But whatever hopes I had to make this a viable alternative to Reddit have been shattered a while ago.

So what’s the point of voting since we don’t know its reasons ?

Don't overcomplicate this. Voting is a way to collectively curate content. If it is relevant to the community and you feel the content is a positive addition to the community, you vote up. If you think it's a negative addition, you vote it down. That's all that there is to it.

It's not the its size in relation of the Fediverse that I am talking about. It's its size in relation to universe of Piefed instances...

Even if all of the donation-based instances crumble (including LW), the platform would still have the non-donation based instances.

Then it would be up to the users to ask themselves "If there are no more open instances, will I still support the Fediverse even if it means I will have to pay a few bucks a month for a professional provider? Am I really against Surveillance Capitalism or I'd rather compromise my privacy and freedom in exchange of a ~free~ social media network?"

that people prefer to post on other instances than yours.

This again?

Even if I had never created any of the topic-specific instances and I all I had was Communick as an user instance. How many instances have we both seem go down? How many admins have you seen showing up full of enthusiasm to burn out some months/years later? Why is it that my manage to keep my (few) users satisfied with the service? Why is it that I don't feel overworked?

I'm not talking with other "people". I'm talking with you. You raised every possible objection against what I am doing. Yet, it keeps growing. Slower than I'd hoped, but growing. It has been self-sustaining. But you continue to look for ways to discredit me.

There have been discussions about how to implement this before. But it has to be done in a way that is agreed by other threadiverse software.

I think we should move away from "threadiverse software" and embrace a transparent social web.

If we want to be transparent, we need to stop creating these leaky abstractions. Votes are not private. A vote on Lemmy is just a Like, a downvote is just a dislike. Instead of pretending this information should be private, we should make it clear to the users that they should only react in anyway if they feel comfortable in sharing their opinion in public.

I am not judging "relevancy" and I am not even trying to convince him to participate. My "beef" with him is simple:

1. he keeps finding every possible reason to be biased against me (or Communick/the instances I am running) because I openly say that the "donation-based" Fediverse is not sustainable.
2. he gives the benefit of doubt to any other "free/open" instance which can seem like an underdog against LW
3. the instances he keeps promoting/defending are invariably failing, supporting my thesis that the "donation-based" Fediverse is not sustainable
4. When looking at the repeated cases of instances crumbling around, he doubles down on the idea of finding yet-another instance that is small and does not even contemplate the possibility that I might have a point.

Believe me when I say it: I am not interested in using the topic-based instances for personal gain. I want them to be a neutral ground and I wish they could be collectively owned. My "evil plan" is to have an easy way to onboard people coming from Reddit, and my bet is that if the ecosystem grows large enough then I would benefit by offering professional hosting services for the users.

• It qualifies as activity. People are posting when it matters to them.

• It still is unrelated to the point. The point is that you keep betting on donation-based instances because you want them to succeed, yet history is (repeatedly) showing it to you that these bets are not good.