rglullis

It failed in the sense that Reddit still not just got what it wanted, it was a test that showed that most people don't really care about the nature of social media and tech companies, as long as their precious content is still provided. It certainly emboldened to go ahead with their plans of IPO and on monetizing user data.

I'm not saying we should bash ourselves. Trying and failing is certainly better than subjugating to the status quo out of apathy. But Lemmy is stuck at 35k MAU, which Reddit is one of the "smaller" social networks and still counts 400 *million MAU. I wouldn't call a "massive victory" if we only managed to reach 0.01% of the userbase, and it's not even like the people here completely got rid of Reddit, a good number of them are still quite active there.

I thought the whole idea is to make entire communities migrate to Lemmy

Not entire communities. One. I'm saying let's find one subreddit (out of the 100k+ subreddits that exist) that could be interesting and let's focus our efforts on solving the problems of this one community.

I don't mind criticism, I do mind getting sidetracked with arguments and objections that are not related to the proposal. When you start arguing for something beyond the idea of finding one subreddit, it feels like a drag.

Most moderators apparently...

I don't think the typical Reddit user cares much about shorting.

It's silly to dismiss a whole thesis based based on your concept of "typical" or "average" anything when the whole idea is to find and reach outliers in a large population.

Sorry for the personal callout, but are you always this negative? It seems like every comment or thread you participate is only to see how much you can put people down. Can you please at least try to see how it could work instead of spreading misery everywhere?

Can we sidestep the usual complaints about federation or instance-specific issues? Instead of worrying about the potential roadblocks, let's look at the end goal and work our way back.

Onboarding new reddit users is not difficult. The system that I built for fediverser is running just fine on alien.top, and people can sign up with their Reddit login and already get auto-subscribed to all the relevant communities. If more instance admins decide to use it, I could even add it to https://fediverser.network where anyone coming from Reddit don't even have to choose an instance, and we just redirect them to the ones that are available and with the most affinity.

The real challenges now are related to chicken-and-egg of content. People don't want to leave Reddit because that's where their communities are. Moderators don't want to leave Reddit because that's where people are. The mirror bots were meant to solve one side of this, I'm just missing a good, easy, censorship resistant way to make the bridges.

The problem I’ve faced is that even if the subreddit wants to build up a community here, users eventually stop posting if no one from their original community is seeing the content.

They were not opt-in (and I'm firmly in the camp that believes that "opt-in" bridges are a bad idea), but that was the second most important pain point that I wanted to solve with the alien.top bots (behind it being a tool to help one-click migration).

The tool should check if the OP of the post included a flag (...) either in the title, post body, or as a top comment.

This feels like it can become a brittle solution and can get way too complicated fast. My plan for fediverser now is to let people create bridges by authenticating with their Lemmy and Reddit account, and then specify what type of bridge. E.g, users could choose if want their responses in Lemmy to become a response on Reddit, or just to send a PM to the OP indicating the Lemmy link.

In any case, I'd personally favor any approach which establishes that the net flow of content is out of Reddit, not in. If we keep mirroring the content from here to Lemmy, the people there will have even less incentive to leave, but if we use the intolerant minority strategy we might end up forcing the majority to migrate as well.

Would you mind sharing the details? What subreddit do you want to move?

For the moderators, the story to tell it's easy: they are in abusive relationship with Reddit's management, and they are being offered a way out.

For the non-affected users, we can also find a very good reason: money.

Reddit is going to IPO soon, right? Let's get the WallstreetBets people involved, and let's show how people could make money by shorting Reddit's stock.

I agree on the importance of content, but I do not worry about "only one shot of making a good impression". People are willing to turn a blind eye for the things they want to work out - in Brazil orkut (remember that?) was so successful that the "server error" due to overload page a meme in itself. Twitter's "Fail Whale" as well.

This is why the idea is to focus on one single subreddit, and why we need the support from their moderators. If we successfully turn this into a mission for the community, then all of the missteps can be forgiven and used as lessons of what not to do in in the next one.

Shit, you are right. I forgot they went down this source-available hill.

n8n.io works pretty great for individuals and small teams, open source and self-hostable.

Yeah, my response was a bit tongue-in-cheek because one of the things that I don't like about Lemmy is this coupling to a specific storage backend. Maybe it was just immaturity of actix that led the devs to take this approach, but most mature web frameworks already allow pluggable storage backends, so in the end it seems that Lemmy will reinvent a bunch of wheels.

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