psilocybin

joined 2 years ago
[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Capitalism is when iPhone

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

More like "We'll make good value from your privacy"

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"We value your privacy"

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

On a Pixel with GrapheneOS

I use KISS, I wanted an opensource launcher

Its quick actions, history and tags are exactly what I need.

You need to customize it heavily to get it to look good: I use a very minimal amoledBlack&white config with Arcticons and I love it

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol standard halfwit take:

Adopting the "tankie" slur for everyone without substance and obviously no knowledge of what they are talking about - check

Being embedded in propaganda and blaming others who point it out - check

"You're not including facts" - lol for what? Am I responding to a factual argument? Am I demanding facts from you?

But sure have some facts:

Guardian from 2011 - Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media

Intercept from 2014 - HACKING ONLINE POLLS AND OTHER WAYS BRITISH SPIES SEEK TO CONTROL THE INTERNET

Believe me it has only gotten worse in the >10 years since

Twitter files revealed pentagon bots were whitelisted as well

If you miss your propaganda friends that hard reddit is still there for you

Edit: I realize your missing punctuation threw me off, I read: "(aka anything, they don't like including facts)" ...doesn't change much though

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I only had to scroll down 2 comments more more

Edit: link doesn't seem to work for me, shows me the response to the comment I copied the link of. Maybe a bug in Jerboa?

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I legitimately don't understand why Leninists are so keen on making folk heroes out of tyrants.

What a sentence! You're jumping to conclusions all over the place!

You're conflating information with a desire to "make folk heroes out of tyrants", trying to denormalise a desire to understand what was actually happening.

There was bloodshed but not on the Tienanmen square and the conditions are less clear than you believe

It is obvious that most peoples idea of what happened is heavily influenced by propaganda, I know mine was.

If you could stop sabotaging efforts to cut through the disinformation that would be great thanks

Also: "They are tyrants" thanks I'll defer judgement as long as the evidence you present us with turns out to be propaganda, there are other "tyrannical governments" much more in reach

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree, the best thing is to not jump to conclusions neither the conclusion "Everything is 100% CIA lies" nor the conclusion "China bad" and be patient with individual topics before stepping onto the emotional roller coaster

I've listened to a podcast ("Silk and Steel") by a Chinese living in the US and he describes the media coverage of China in the West as skewed, but he describes it as narrowed onto a certain slice of Chinese reality that is there just blown out of proportion.

I don't remember his exact words and I am not an English native so I might not transfer the nuance precisely. But along those lines is what I remember. And even IIRC its just the opinion of one person, but it stuck with me. Tbf that was years ago though and narrative has certainly picked up since then

Thank you for the appreciation, I have to say I have yet to get used to the discussions on lemmy being seemingly way more good-faithed than on reddit!

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also your summary sounds like ChatGPT

Nah they have a typo ("anit-China") in their summary I think they're fine.

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

the article you posted

Wasn't me. I haven't read that article yet

It's in the article I referenced

As I obviously have not read yours. I will catch up on both. Thanks for quoting that anyways

NGO is some kind of CIA backed organization

I wouldn't be surprised. The CIA has a history of backing NGOs like this dating back to the Congress for Cultural Freedom whose goal it was to purge leftism in europe of communism. Nowadays they usually use the NED for that though

.. "Devil Eyes" .. is bit disengenious to bring up. .. they only ever built a few prototypes. .. I don't think we can really trust China's take on this.

Whether or not it is true they only ever produced prototypes I don't think its disingenious as my point was not the impact it made but how the CIA operates and this is a good example as it simultaneously needs to be: somewhat recent, yet not too recent so its publicly known (declassified or uncovered) and ridiculous.

I wanted to push back on your notion that something sounds too ridiculous for the CIA to pursue, which generally is just not a framework in which to understand the CIA.

The Chinese source was not "China's take on this" it was a source of the washington post in China where the CIA allegedly commissioned the dolls (which they did not dispute according to wapo).

But since you brought up the trustworthyness of a take: I wouldn't trust the CIAs take on this, which is the source claiming "too their knowledge" only 3 dolls were produced.

But personally I think its clear these dolls never got into the hands of many customers, its just such a dumb plan.

Antcedotally, I've heard other stories of China doing stuff like this

Historically many narratives about China have been proven false or misrepresented too (social credit system, authenticity of tiananmen papers,...) thats why I am sceptical.

Thanks to the illusory truth effect this anecdotal gut feeling is terribly vulnerable to manipulation. It happens in media all the time, i.e. some rightists believe the LGBTQ community is full of groomers bc its what they are told all the time (not sure if this is a good example, I just wanted to pick a partisan one)

If the targets voice is not represented its even worse bc the claims stay largely uncontested and false claims can stack up (one misrepresentation giving you the feeling "this is totally something they would do", strenghtening your misconception), creating a gut feeling in the population that is wrong. A fairly uncontested example for such a deconstruction of a foreign target through the media would be Iraq pre invasion. You can look up polls from around the time and correlate it with the reporting of the time. This is also the effect of filterbubbles of course filtering out the opinions you lose the corrective

Whether or not the CIA was/is involved in influencing public opinion like this (personally I have no doubt), this is absolutely what is happening WRT reporting on China ATM, there is no corrective and false claims just stack up.

Look at the histeria that an off-course weather balloon caused: people would line up at an event to scream at Biden about the balloon, even though the initial press release of the pentagon clearly states that this was not an uncommon phenomenon and that there is no threat associated with it (granted its longer than that and one can have a discussion about some of the wording, but this comment is long enough already)

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

As long as you don't question that the enemies of US imperialism deserve it you should be mostly fine. The big geopolitical topics are more sensitive.

I was permabanned from multiple subs for sharing this telegraph article for example:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230701133656/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html

It differs from sub to sub but the bigger and more political the stronger the imperial narrative is enforced.

r/worldnews is one of the worst, and honestly suspect its astroturf and run by assets or a derivative of an imperial institution (council on foreign relation, think tanks, the likes)

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