presoak

Yeah, validation is part of the craft.

"It" doesn't know that there are deeper etc. it's a craft. It has no brain.

It is one craft. There are others (for example, whittling). Let's not aggrandize it.

(EDIT. unified nomenclature)

Same thing in buddhism. If I quote a thing that makes no sense to me or anybody, it's legit because a famous teacher said it. But if I just freestyle my own observation, that's a no no.

That's speaking from a certain perspective on that stuff.

There's a whole world of strangeness that popular culture, science etc does not satisfyingly address. So they look elsewhere.

Sometimes you see things.

I have gone down the path of meditation an uncommon distance. Finding people to talk to about it is basically impossible. There is some common ground with consensual reality tho. And I try to do conversations there sometimes. It is generally frustrating. I should stop.

Science is just a bunch of models crafted by a society.

And there are other ways to do things.

How false are we talking? A couple seconds? Minutes?

So in summation, "nuh uh".

Well you wouldn't know what's lost until you see it yrself.

From what I've seen, it's vast. What remains is a single sunflower seed left from the whole flower.

Well that certainly does simplify it.

Call it a perceptual tunnelvision that becomes a habit.

Ya, a tool with a sneaky downside.

Shikantaza meditation (it's what the zen buddhists do) has the opposite effect.