pot_belly_mole

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[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Good comment. I think one potential audience would be people who (like myself) want to work in the intersections of activism, research and politics. It's not a huge demographic, but I think it's a demographic that should take it up as one of their tasks to create more popularized narratives based on this kind of research. Also a demographic that is likely overrepresented here. The abstraction is there, but I still think it's one of the most motivating research papers I've read in a while.

 

Outlines of an industrial policy programme in the current European politico-economical landscape, for those who take a sustainable ecosocial transformation seriously.

No mainstream sustainability wishful thinking - but real analysis with depth, power, politics and ingenuity.

What Bärnthaler, Mang and Hickel set out to do in their new article is remarkable. And in my judgement the result is exceptionally interesting and inspiring.

the EU’s industrial policy is internally contradictory and structurally incapable of achieving its stated objectives. It seeks to ensure resilience, yet fails to strengthen the foundational non-market institutions essential for economic and social stability. It pursues strategic autonomy, yet deepens resource dependencies and fuels eco-imperialist tensions. It aims for sustainability, yet remains dependent on profit-driven private sector strategies that delay the necessary phase-out of unsustainable industries.

To address these dysfunctionalities, we [...] propose a reconceptualized framework for industrial policy – [...] Foundational Liveability (strengthening the provisioning of essential goods and services), Peaceful Planetary Co-Existence (mitigating extractivist pressures and geopolitical conflicts through a multipolar, regionalized approach), and Democratically Coordinated Sustainability (shifting from market-driven green growth to deliberate, democratically planned economic transformation)

a Foundational Economy Strategy to gradually reclaim public control over essential services, strengthening their resilience and accessibility through decommodification; a Sufficiency Strategy to systematically reduce Europe’s material footprint and resource dependence [...] and Green Economic Planning, a form of state-led decarbonization that moves beyond passive market incentives while accommodating compromises with specific capital factions to drive structural transformation.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

Quick thoughts on this:

I would not equate degrowth and self-sufficiency. While it's plausible and possibly even necessary to increase self-sufficiency in a successful degrowth scenario, there should still be abundant international trade on important sectors. Degrowth is not a turn away from technology in eg. low-carbon energy production, electrification and bioeconomy.

Ensuring defense capabilities is of course vital, especially in the short term, and can be achieved through prioritization of resource use. Notably, in the long term the turn away from geopolitical competition, weakening the influence of fossil and military-industrial capital, increased self-sufficiency in resource use and increased global solidarity (in eg. trade policy, climate policy, development policy) would all greatly serve to promote peace and the decrease of tensions. This is not to say one should be naive towards governments like Putin's authoritarian Russia.

While this might sound like a lot of things lumped together, for example this research article is helpful in understanding how all these things relate: https://zenodo.org/records/15529759

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Joplin is an awesome FOSS note app and alternative to Obsidian. Love it, I use WebDAV to link between devices. Lots of plugins for extra functionality as well.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Based on the text I would not consider it a functional degrowth economy. What they have so far is the payment system, and some promising emerging use for it. But a great initiative and a great read anyway.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago

The tweet that seemed to be bootlicking Trump was worrying and troubling in my opinion as well. However, reading this deeper analysis alleviated at least some of my fears https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Also the foundation model decisively limits the influence of the founder. There seems to be no other European email service that's quite on par with Proton. Therefore I still think they are the top alternative.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Great, hope you find them fruitful!

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

Thanks for sharing! A great, informative and concise piece, with a lot of learning points for co-operatives.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope so. Although I'm not sure whether it is solarpunk or some other term under which the ideas will be popularized (eg. degrowth, eco-socialism, minor paradise, doughnut economy, ecological civilization). But I find it likely that solarpunk will be packaged together with communism, as communism, by the right. And demonized.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure whether we have the same idea of what it means for capitalism to be compatible with something. Maybe setting aside direct action for now, major reforms in all of the areas you mentioned could be implemented in a society with a predominantly capitalist mode of production, with enough political power. It would be a move away from capitalism, strengthening socialist and statist modes of production. But it would not mean the end of capitalism as a mode of production. It doesn't mean those reforms could be implemented only or even preferably by completely terminating capitalism, i.e. private capital and production, at once through total revolution.

There are always multiple modes of production active in a society. For an example case, compare the USA and any nordic country. Both are predominantly capitalist states, but in a nordic country, there is far more production following a socialist and statist mode than in the US. Of course, major transformations are also needed in the nordic countries to get on the path of degrowth, that's for sure.

For reference, André Gorz, who is one of the most influential degrowth scholars, developed the concept of "non-reformist reforms" which are anti-capitalist reforms in a capitalist system. Another good read is this piece, "How to think about (and win) socialism". Erik Olin Wright writes about the complexities of production relations and strategic logics of transformation.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

I was gonna suggest The Dawn of Everything. I think one of the major arguments they make in the book is that humans have lived in very differing cultures and societies throughout (pre-)history. So attaching any one mode of societal organization to "human nature" is hardly possible.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I agree that in the long run degrowth is not compatible with capitalism, at least not capitalism as we know it. Even if markets and private property continued to play some role in the economy. However, I think it's important to emphasize that we don't need to first somehow completely rid of capitalism (that would require some higher order magic) and then implement degrowth. There are many reforms that can start building the path of a prosperously degrowing society. A good overlook of degrowth policies can be found in this article. Of course, the need to reduce material flows is absolutely urgent, and I definitely advocate building popular support and implementing degrowth policies asap.

[–] pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

Just adopted Joplin (FOSS all the way) for notes on desktop and mobile, using my own Seafile instance as the cloud service through webdav. Very happy with it so far, be it short and quick or long and complex notes.

Also using Zotero for bibliography management and related notes, also backing up to Seafile webdav. Joplin and Zotero also play together, but haven't tried that out yet.

 

McNeil and Barnes (2025) conducted a survey of 2051 respondents in the UK. The goal was to find out the respondents attitudes on the existence of a tradeoff between the environment and economic growth and their priorities in such a tradeoff.

They found out most people would prioritize the environment over growth.

In their cluster analysis on the responses, they identified the largest group to be "moderate environmentalists" (37 %), followed by a moderate economistic group (20 %) and a strong environmental preference group (19 %). 9% had extreme pro-economic-growth views.

They also tested whether highlighting the existence of a trade-off affected the respondents. They conclude that "greater public attention to the possibility of an environment-economic growth trade-off has only limited effects on support for environmental protection" and "It does not appear that increasing belief in the trade-off is consequential for people's policy positions."

McNeil, A., & Barnes, L. (2025). The environment–economic growth trade-off: Does support for environmental protection depend on its economic consequences? Ecological Economics, 230, 108522. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ecolecon.2025.108522

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