osarusan

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't even know what point you're trying to make, other than that you are very angry and want to blame someone for that. Hopefully channel that anger into something productive, like pressing your representatives to support better candidates. And actually voting for the better candidate instead of sitting back and helping the greater of two evils win.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

All I see is a person who sees two possibilities, recognizes that one is worse than the other, and then actively works to make the worse one happen. You have no grounding upon which to call anybody else evil.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Jesus Christ this is stupid.

If purity-test people like you would actually fucking vote for change, we could actually enact meaningful change.

Instead, we will never have enough left-leaning politicians to enact any sort of progressive agenda because of braindead voters like you who refuse to vote because the lesser of two evils isn't perfect. And we get stuck in this 51/49 deadlock where nothing good ever happens.

Imagine being so stupid that you'd support the greater of two evils simply because you weren't a fan of the lesser of two evils. Imagine this: You have to eat either a pile of dogshit with a small piece of corn in it, or a pile of corn with a small piece of shit in it. But you get to choose. And you say "ehhhh I don't like corn so I won't choose." How stupid can one be???

I don't care how badly you or I want Bernie, or AOC, or whoever to be the next president. IT ISN'T HAPPENING. So do everybody a favor and fucking vote for the candidate who is BETTER.

If there are two evils to choose from, and you get a choice, CHOOSE THE FUCKING LESSER EVIL.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

So... you're the proof of the article I guess?

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 52 points 2 years ago

"Go and be a monkey for a bit."

Works for me!

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If your method of voting is to choose the best person you can imagine, rather than someone who has an actual chance of winning, why vote for any candidate? Why not just write-in vote for Superman? Surely he is less evil than any candidate on the ballot.

Voting is like a game with rules. Sometime you simply can't win. But if you want the best outcome for the game you need to pick the strategy that leads to that outcome. Folding your arms and refusing to change your strategy when your preferred outcome has no chance of success ensures that the people actually playing the game will have it their way. Demanding nothing but the absolute best to earn your vote, and thus not voting for someone with a chance, is statistically identical to supporting the worse evil. It's sheer foolishness.

This kind of purity contest accomplishes nothing but shooting yourself in the foot. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is exactly the kind of situation the trolley problem was invented to illustrate... and I've never seen anyone fail at it so badly with such a weird take.

You'll allow the greater evil to happen because you don't want to have any part or any responsibility in helping a lesser evil happen. But you do have responsibility, because you do have a choice. In the trolley problem, f you never knew about the lever, you couldn't be asked to pull it or not. In the election problem, if you can't vote you have no responsibility. But the trolley problem states you know about the lever, and in the election scenario, you do have a vote. So you are involved no matter what. And that means you're just as guilty as the person who acted; only your action resulted in more deaths than the person who acted either way. Yours was the worst possible choice.

Try flipping the words from evil to good. The greater evil is worse, and the lesser evil is better. Therefore, you are choosing the worse scenario rather than the better one. It's ridiculously absurd.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone calls out you for not seeing past your privilege and you respond with childish name calling then tell them to shove it.

You've shown what kind of person you are and how far your discussion capabilities go.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't put words into my mouth and then get pissy because you don't like them. Those are your words, not mine. You're making yourself into a victim.

However I don't for one second believe you got close enough to this stranger to evaluate whether her bag was real or fake ("I own shares in Gucci so I know a knockoff from an original" - best joke I've heard all week!). And you still have no way to know whether that bag was a present, or bought second hand, or anything else.

You could have said something like, "Oh, y'all are right, I let my privilege blind me and I probably shouldn't have judged that stranger so quickly, because everyone has their own unique situation." But instead, you're just defending your initial prejudice, doubling down on it with "I own shares in Gucci!"

It's a bad look. You should reevaluate your stance.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

The GOP should consider

Nope, you lost me right there. That's never going to happen.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (12 children)

My god, what a stupid take.

The lesser evil is by definition the better choice! If you refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, you are effectively choosing the greater evil. It does not get any stupider than that.

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