osarusan

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (27 children)

A vote for Biden does more to help Palestinians than your support for Trump does.

Man. Imagine having not only the privileged arrogance you demonstrate in your previous post, but also the blind conceit to accuse others of hypocrisy when you can't even see how the consequences of your own actions lead to more harm for the people you claim to care about.

You're broadcasting "let them eat cake" levels of arrogant privilege.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, the "i know you are but what am i" response. Got it.

If mocking is your goal you're doing a shit job of it. You've been on the defensive and getting upset about things nobody said this entire time. If that's what mocking looks like to you, yours must be a confusing mind to live in.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (33 children)

but we'd all live.

This is actually not the case.

But you, yes, your privileged ass probably will live and be fine. Plenty of other people will be much worse off or even dead under Trump. So feel good and pat yourself about supporting Trump instead of voting for a better world, but spare the rest of us your privileged arrogance.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I don't know. I've it out rationally several times to people who then get angry and emotional about it. These purity test commenters are the same way. Their position isn't based on reason, and it often seems like showing reasoning to them won't change their mind. But fighting certainly won't help either.

I think the thing you gotta do is just remain as non-confrontational as possible and explain the game theory/the math behind why it works. And let them know it's not a condemnation of their dislike of the system, or of Biden, or of whatever. You can hate something and still vote for it, and that can still be the best choice too. Just don't fall for the bait from those commenters who think their being cute by picking fights or turning it personal. Keep it rational. Maybe the person you're talking to won't change their mind, but a 3rd person who reads the conversation later on might see how you're being rational and making points while the other guy is just being stubborn, argumentative, and irrational.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Dude, I made no claims. I was mocking you. And you're somehow reading into that some anti-women's rights message? Where are you coming up with this nonsense? You can't be serious.... are you a troll?

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Tropic of Cancer!

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, you do you. But dying also won't help stop Trump.

Voting on the other hand....

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I literally just agreed with you in my previous post. So I guess you agree now, and you've realized that the only reasonable choice is to vote for Biden.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Exactly. I don't even have any argument for people who dislike Biden, and I totally sympathize with people who want a different candidate.

But in the end of the day, either A or B will win this election, and anything other than a vote for A mathematically works out to support for B. So unless you actually want Trump to win, the _only _reasonable choice is to vote for Biden.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

If you're given the option to lessen the chance of the greatest evil happening by merely pushing a button, and you think "naah I'm not gunna," then you absolutely should feel shame. If your inaction supports the greater evil coming to power, absolutely shame on you.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You should feel shame if your inaction supports the greatest evil.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

In a way, there's an argument to be made there. If you're not doing everything you can to help defeat evil, then you are allowing that evil some amount of support.

On the other hand, your vote is black and white. By not voting for the one person who has an actual chance to beat Trump, your actions are inarguably are supporting Trump.

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