osarusan

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lovely. All this bodes well for upcoming elections as well...

Social media has been under scrutiny for this kind of shit for a while, and even more-so since 1/6. How is that that almost 3 years later they still can't figure it out??

Facebook and Twitter seem determined to be the match that lights the powder keg.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If we're talking about 2000, when Supreme Court justices appointed by Bush's father stepped in and prevented recounts from taking place (which later showed that Bush would have lost) and handed the presidency to Bush; and comparing that to 2021, when the president launched a mob of armed traitors and attacked the capitol, while GOP lawmakers aided them; and saying there's something similar between them, then all hope for meaningful truth is lost.

"Both sides have accused the other of stealing the election!" is only true insofar as one side has actually stolen an election, after which that fact was grumbled about but then accepted peacefully, and then that same side 20 years later launched a failed coup d'état and whined afterwards about the election being stolen. So it's a fact, but presenting it as some sort of equivalence is the peak of dishonesty.

(I know that's not what you're doing, you're just explaining the conversation. But that is what the grandparent post was doing, thus my complaint.)

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Imagine being unable to understand why people would vote against Donald Trump...

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Trump and Democrats have done the same thing????????

Get the fuck right out of here.

There is no room for this kind of false equivocation in any honest conversation. You're parroting sheer --and dangerous-- propaganda. Take that back to Russia or wherever pays you 10 cents to post it.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Go back to your troll cave with this "both sides are the same" bullshit.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ask a shitty question, expect a shitty answer, troglodyte.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Can't they just abandon their homes, lives, and everything they know and move en masse over 1000 km to somewhere else?"

Really??

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

A younger candidate doesn't have the decades of experience that Biden does.

Look, I'm not stumping for Biden here. I'm just answering OP's question as to why he's the candidate, and trying to alleviate some of the concerns that people have about his age.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're not wrong, but does that invalidate his experience? Most of the people he's striking deals with are in that same boat. And as president, he surrounds himself with capable people who understand today's world and help him navigate it. That's what an intelligent, experienced person does.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol. Thanks for proving my point entirely.

I tried to end this one-sided "conversation" on a cordial, even note. But you still ended up throwing a tantrum and not engaging with anything I said.

You are a troll after all. A privileged, moralizing, purist troll. If the shoe fits, wear it.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's two big reasons Biden is going to be the candidate:

  1. Biden has already won an election (3 if you count his time as VP). He's been tried and tested and won. The system will always prefer the candidate who has proven they can win over someone who is untested. Thus, without some extreme circumstances, incumbents always have a huge advantage over newcomers.

  2. Biden is an extremely experienced politician. He has more experience than most people in Washington, and is an expert at reaching across the isles and cooperating with other politicians. He knows the game like nobody else and he's damn good at it. A good president has to work with those they agree with and those they disagree with, and Biden can do that.

The age question isn't as serious as you think it is. The president is the leader and the face of the Executive Branch, but he isn't the one doing all the work. There are tons of people around him who share the workload of the actual business of the Office of the President. It's not a one man job.

As to your "when" question, the answer is when they can. We're skating by on razor-thin margins right now, and have been for a long time. When our lawmaking body is split 51 vs 49, and you need 66 or more to pass any meaningful legislation, you need someone who is really good at reaching across the isle. And you also need lawmakers who are willing to compromise. What that means is that voting out the bad fanatics and voting in reasonable people of conscience is as important as ever. While one half of Congress is filled with fundamentalists, nothing will ever get done no matter who is president.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Contrary to what you think, I'm not trying to provoke you. Yet you've been getting highly provoked anyway. My "shitting all over" your comment was actually me explaining to you how your stance does the exact opposite of what you think it does. I took the time to explain it in detail, and you didn't acknowledge any of it. You just dug in deeper and took it personally almost to the point of having a meltdown.

I don't know what else to tell you. I've been trying to have a discussion here, and it feels like you're trying to have an argument. I haven't seen any effort on your part to discuss genuinely, just fighting and moralizing. Any challenge to your position is taken as a personal insult, to which you then respond with hostility and dishonesty. That's why I think you're a troll.

It sounds like we both agree this was a waste of time, so let's just let it end here. Next time we can both try to do better.

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