n2burns

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I completely agree with your comment. I was only responding to the claim, "Trade ins and selling old phones doesn’t really reduce e-waste."

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 80 points 11 months ago (19 children)

I too wish the developer would respond, but I don't think this is the catastrophe people are making it out to be. One comment seems to explain why these binaries are included:

Because ventoy supports shim, and by extension secure boot, these files needs to come from a signed Linux distro. In this case they are taken from Fedora releases, and OpenSUSE apparently, as they publish shim binaries and grub binaries signed by their certificate.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Why would you make your scenario supply constrained? Your argument is simply if we sold less phones, less would go to e-waste, and duh. That wasn't debate, it was whether releasing new phones every year was wasteful vs new phones being released every 2-3 years.

Your scenario also assuming people buy used or they just don't have a phone. People who buy a used phone generally do so instead of buying a new phone.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Almost certainly not, but I'm just trying to point out it's not a hardware limitation. Though, if it was installed remotely, they would probably have issues printing locally.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (13 children)

That's empirically untrue. If people are selling their used phones and not keeping more than one phone (which definitely happens, but is unrelated to this point), then the exact same number of phones would be produced as if everyone bought new and only put them in e-waste when they were broken/obsolete.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

You're not completely wrong, as they also have thin clients which should be technically capable of running a word processor. It's just a question of whether the prison is going to implement that no/low-cost solution.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, I literally am a government employee, and formerly worked in the military in Radio Comms and IT, often with Top Secret communications and infrastructure . I am intimately familiar with government procedures and limitations.

I never said that end-users would be setting up LibreOffice. I'm just pointing out there's a low/no-cost solution, and it isn't a hardware limitation.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The thin clients should be capable of running LibreOffice, or at least running it remotely.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (15 children)

If you're upgrading your phone every year, that is a personal choice. Plus, most people who do that trade-in/sell their old phone which gets used by someone else.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

I completely agree with what you said. It's been years since I bought any games and yet my experience just gets better and better on Steam, especially as a Linux user.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (20 children)

I don't really see any downsides to annual phone releases. For those people who want to upgrade every year, they can, for everyone else, you upgrade when you want to and you get a pretty new phone. I definitely agree the improvements for slab phones has slowed down a bunch, but there are still pretty big leaps in foldables, etc.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

iPhone SE doesn't come out every year, and Apple doesn't have a foldable.

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