mozz

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Want to address the current headlines I quoted in my other comment?

They’ve got a right to express their side of things, of course, but pretending they are “credible” in terms of, you can take credulously the stuff that’s printed there, is absolute hilarilty.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 33 points 1 year ago

I’m outraged that their followers want to kill politicians for real and have been making pretty credible attempts to do so

We all have, I guess, our pet peeves

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to get off Mr. Walton's Health-Care-is-a-Business-Not-a-Human-Right Ride

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I tend to assume that the accounts that spread the deliberately false rumor that led to this are Russian propaganda.

The account that was spreading the rumor looked to me more or less exactly like some that I think are clear Russian propaganda, and they got caught doing the same thing in the US (deliberately trying to bring anti-Muslim and Muslim demonstrators together so they would fight, in one case), and I would assume that for every time they get caught there are probably many many more where they didn't.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you trying to tell me "Iran said to dismiss US, Arab calls for restraint — even if it sparks war" and "IDF says slain Al Jazeera reporter was a Hamas commando, took part in Oct. 7 massacre" aren't fully credible, highly factual, left-center ways of summarizing what's currently happening in the Middle East?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

There is a particular type of propaganda account that likes to insert nonsense into the discourse, just to interfere with people who want to have reasonable discussions. This article has more about it -- search for Peter Pomerantsev; he's quoted in that talking about it.

Of course I'm not saying the person you're replying to is doing that. I for-real genuinely have no idea whether it's that, or they're just a person with some odd ideas about geopolitics, and anyway it would be illegal for me to make that type of speculation.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 84 points 1 year ago (40 children)

It’s about 6 months too late, maybe more, but I’ll take it

Now maybe try some kind of fuckin consequences maybe, before another 10% of the population of Gaza gets buried under rubble or dies of scurvy or infection or being shot by a sniper

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh COME THE FUCK ON

At this point MBFC bot is just taking the piss on purpose

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Okay, we finished the future machine. Hey future-machine, what’s gonna happen?”

“About 3 billion people will die and one continent worth of land become uninhabitable. A version of your civilization will survive, but unrecognizable to the people of today. You will lose many things you take for granted.”

“… that’s after the 0.9 degrees?”

“If you are lucky, yes.”

“… what about before?”

“Do you really want to know?”

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reality is, we just don’t know. I feel confident in saying it will get bad enough to kill food crops on a massive scale and a bunch of people will starve to death. How many is “a bunch”? I don’t know. Maybe billions. Maybe less.

But how bad it really could get, on the bad side, with as many tipping points as could exist, I think it’s impossible to say until it happens. Big changes in the earth’s climate have historically been big. The whole thing was a snowball for like 100 million years. Sometimes the ice caps melt and everything dies. Actually as I understand it, the pretty consistent answer for what happens when a big climate change happens is “almost everything dies” and then the survivors slowly adapt to the new reality. But it definitely wouldn’t be survivable for any kind of civilization (even just on pure food availability grounds) in a lot of the realistic scenarios.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I won't say you are wrong but 0.9°C savings is pretty fuckin beautiful to me

It's bittersweet but it's more than I thought it was

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