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Biden has personally had a hand in strengthening the ties between israel and the us, this has been a big part of his political career.

I literally said that this Gish Gallop moving of goalposts would happen, in the message that you're replying to, and you still did it.

Not all of them. Article states that "almost half" got it. Win-win? No, compromise.

I just looked quickly, but it looks to me like by June, it was 60%, and in October it was 91%.

Now please, move the goalposts to something else, and we can talk about that if I feel like taking the time to address it.

Im an underpaid, working class queer American. STOP

I said before: I've actually noticed that the shills have a tendency to self-identify themselves as coming from some particular place or having LGBTQ identity, which is very unusual to do for most people having discussions on reddit/Lemmy/whatever. I guess the thinking is that people won't be able to disagree with them, because they're "more left" and have greater authority or something?

Critical is one thing -- I actually was convinced recently by Ezra Klein's editorial and Jon Stewart's episode that there are significant reasons to try to put someone other than Biden up in the general election. Why is that? Because they made serious, sensible arguments and seemed genuinely concerned about the future of the country. They didn't say grossly irresponsible things like that there's no difference between Trump and Biden, or give reasons people shouldn't vote in the election. They actually expressed the urgency of what's going to happen in this election as a key reason why it's important to take problems with Biden seriously.

If you were posting things coming at it from that perspective, I'd have no reason to be suspicious of your motives in posting this stuff.

Ah yes, I'm such a right wing shill that I posted an article titled

Yes, your MO seems to be a certain percent generically left-wing things, sort of the minimum required to maintain a fig-leaf of general political interest outside of your clear agenda, combined with a heavy percentage of just pure single-issue anti-Biden propaganda. Your most recent 10 articles show the ratio at 30%/70%. The fact that this is one of the 30% doesn't excuse the 70%, to me.

You have. They've usually just been a little less at-odd-with-reality-obvious than this one.

There are wider issues at play (holding Biden individually responsible for 50 years of consistently bloodthirsty US Israel policy and saying that if he doesn't reverse it single handedly, then it makes sense to hand the election to Trump who will do much worse). But even accepting this weird premise for the whole conversation, this meme's assertions are dogshit.

1. "You're just letting Trump win" -- yes, that's factually accurate. One or the other of them will win the election. It's clear that framing this as "blackmail" or "you have to give allegience to the Democrats under threat of" or etc, is a propaganda talking point, because I've seen it restated in so many ways in these weird memes despite the fact that it makes no fuckin sense. Someone who tells you, vote for Biden or else Trump might win and that would be worse, is simply stating facts, and if you're arguing with them about it or saying they're trying to get you do do something or standing up for the DNC or "threatening" you or whatever, you're wrong.
2. The railway workers got their sick pay, because Biden's labor department kept working the issue after preventing the strike and the resulting damage to the economy. You can feel any which way about it, or say he should have let the strike continue, but saying he sold out the railroad workers is absolutely factually wrong. He accomplished the win-win solution. The way it's stated in the meme is factually not how it happened.
3. He reversed child and family separation, and specifically started a team to try to find the families of separated children and reunite them. He's in a standoff with Texas right now

STOP

I can feel the presence of some shill trying to Gish-gallop their way out of this one, and say he's not doing enough to fight against the GOP's insane policies, now that "he didn't reverse the policies" turns out to have been a total fabrication.

I honestly don't feel like enumerating any more of this. This whole meme is propaganda bullshit. Please, can we have an end to the Russian / GOP shills and their memes. It's fuckin insulting that anyone could take this seriously.

Trump and his sparklemagic lawyer Alina Habba

Would you say you're obsessed with Biden, and how it's important for people not to vote for him in this election? You post about him way more than I engage with your stuff. And yes, I still think it's sus for a couple of different reasons. That's not obsessive, any more than noting from time to time "yo you should be aware, that dude at the bus stop seems like he's acting weird" is obsessing over that dude at the bus stop.

Not doing anything to "prove" who you are seems perfectly reasonable, of course. You were the one who suggested that somewhat odd idea, and then fell silent when I said, sure sounds good, I am curious. But by all means, you do you, keep your privacy, that seems better.

Also, saying you can't be a shill because you had an account on Reddit is like saying "I can't have sand on me, I live at the beach."

What fuckin crazypants logic is this

"Well what I have is way far away from what I want, so what's the point in choosing the clearly better alternative"

As applied to this particular election, this is like saying "I want to climb this mountain, but the hill in front of me isn't where I want to get to, it's like thousands of feet lower than the summit, so what's the difference if I jump into this ravine filled with lava instead"

Also what happened to that video call where you offered to prove that you were who you say you are? Not a right-wing shill posting anti-Biden things to discourage Democrats from voting?

Blasphemy

Bill Watterson had plenty enough of representation of the soul of his subject that he certainly wouldn’t have represented Garfield as looking like Hobbes

They are nothing alike

Otherwise it’s excellent

Yeah. The "I'm just not voting" (fuckin atrocious stupid idea) "Biden is bad" (he's not) "Gaza is all Biden's fault" (it's not) shills are so noisy, that it took me a while (and reading Ezra Klein and seeing Jon Stewart talking about it) to cotton on to the idea that there is actually a valuable point there.

I honestly don't know what to do. I'm going to vote for the Democrat in the general election obviously, because I don't want the end of democracy and an apocalypse in the rest of the world any more than anyone else does, but I wish I could see some sort of realistic way for the Democratic nominee to be someone else. I'm just about to vote in the primary but that will obviously do nothing at all to influence things for real.

If anyone has ideas, please let me know.

This is why they need things like the Florida State Guard and the Oathkeepers and why they're inviting confrontations between the Texas National Guard and border patrol. Their plan is not based on anything legal; their plan is "we have big guys with guns and we'll shoot you if you try to enforce the law."

Agreed

in the same tiny stall for who knows how long

I have bad news for you about modern industrial cattle farming