I'll agree with the other posters that being on a spaceship maps better to being on a ship than it does being in an airplane, but I would add to it one other maybe overlooked factor: Robert Heinlein served in the navy and clearly had a massive hard-on for it and included all sorts of pro-war and pro-military themes in his work, and that all came from the POV of the navy and included lots of specifically naval elements to what was presented, and he was a big enough presence in the field that it left a mark that lasts to the present day.
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Literally no idea what you're talking about. I have no idea but I suspect your adblocker is maybe substandard. Have Librewolf
Ah, so you were actually posting an inspiring message about the power of one person to make a difference if they work for change, and the vital importance of getting involved in activism beyond electoral politics at this pivotal point in history. Silly me, how could I have misunderstood.
Your leap of logic here ought to win some sort of award
To everyone else: Remember, they’re only investing so much incessant time and effort making these things and posting them, and arguing with everyone and getting all vigorous with their bad faith arguments, because you voting or not will absolutely make a difference in the election. It’s of a piece with gerrymandering, striking black and Democratic voters off the rolls, under equipping polling places in urban areas — a concerted effort to fight to undo the power that voting has to exercise influence that they don’t want you to have.
im really radical
I can tell.
Climate protesters have been jailed under Biden.
Peaceful protestors have been jailed under every single political administration for both of our lifetimes and our parent's lifetimes too. The difference is in Trump specifically saying that he wants to have the National Guard shoot them, and acting on taking insignia off the law enforcement and having them just snatch people and take them away. That was new.
Honestly, I'm just getting tired of this conversation. You can pick out a bunch of new topics, find things wrong with the world, blame them on Biden, and pretend that means there's some kind of equivalence between "I haven't done nearly as much as needs to be done to reverse a hundred years of imperialism and class warfare, and the Republicans are being too effective at stopping me" and "I WANT TO KILL ALL THE MEXICANS AND BLM PEOPLE AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME."
there are loopholes that make it so people can avoid having to build ramps and other accomodations
What the fuck how is that Biden's fault, what are you even talking about
student loans
$138 billion in forgiven loans isn't enough? I mean, sure, it's not, but you lost me when you used that as an argument why it would all be the same to have the guy who want to make college illegal and says all the Hispanics should have their driver's licenses taken away, or whatever the fuck it's gonna be this time?
He reversed child and family separation
No he did not. He RAISED THE BAR for what could be used to justify prosecution of the parents.
This is one issue out of all the bad faith anti Biden stuff that makes me legitimately furious. I've had multiple friends who were undocumented immigrants, and some came over when they were young, and so it hits close to home.
When you say "no he did not," you are talking completely out of your ass. Biden started the task force to reunify families separated under the program. I.e., he reversed the flow of parents<->children being separated, so they were flowing back together again. Reversal.
I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about in re raising the bar and prosecution, but it has nothing to do with family separation. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. There was never any kind of legal due process or sense to it, they just fucking did it, and who's going to stop them.
I think this article does a pretty good job at breaking down what Biden did well and poorly in reference to immigration.
Quoting from that article:
Well, the Biden administration insists that it is restarting this policy under duress. President Biden has called it dangerous and inhumane. His administration has tried to end it several times, but a federal judge in Texas forced the administration to revive it earlier this year. And so this month, immigration authorities started returning some migrants to Mexico - so far not many, just a few hundred. The administration says it is also putting in place additional humanitarian protections for these migrants. But immigrant advocates are not convinced that that's going to make much of a difference.
A lot of these bad faith arguments against Biden break down like this. You take something where Biden's trying to do the right thing, and facing resistance from a certain quarter of the federal government, and use it to somehow say well we need to give more power to that quarter that's opposing him, because he's doing something terrible, by not doing a good enough job at overcoming them. So everyone's basically the same. It makes not the slightest bit of sense but people keep saying it.
That's why I and others keep throwing around accusations of people being shills. Not because I have the slightest idea whether you specifically are or not, but because there's one side of the issue that's hammering on these particular talking points (Gaza immigration the railroad strike), over and over, and the arguments they're using all consistently don't make any fucking sense whatsoever if you actually examine them.
That's all I really have patience to deal with, is your one immigration point, but I'm gonna be a little bit unfair and assume that you're just as wrong about everything else as you are on that. Most of the other points I've dealt with in some other comment here anyway.
Trump literally had federal law enforcement snatching protestors and hauling them away in unmarked vans. He called for the National Guard to shoot BLM protestors. He wants to put establishment Democrats in prison for opposing him; I'm sure what he has in store for anyone who's the slightest bit anarchist is much much less formal and more permanent than that. You trying to reach for any bad thing that's happening to anybody, like blaming Israeli hate groups on Biden some fuckin how, is a key tell to your motivations in having this conversation. In my opinion.
I actually share in a lot of people's disillusionment with the establishment Democrats. It is fair. The key difference is, if someone says "and that's why we need to support (whoever) and try to do (whatever) to make key changes in the Democratic party," then sure, let's rock and roll. Makes perfect sense. If you're using it to say "and that's why it makes no difference if Trump wins," then you are wrong, wrong, wrong. If Trump wins, there may not be another election again for quite some time. I mean that literally.
Honestly, whether you are or aren't a shill, it should bother you. Even the people who had been Nazi supporters were seriously unhappy by the time it got to be 1945 or so and they had to live in what had been created.
years of disappointment from both parties
Well, if there's one thing that'll help with that, it's getting left wing people out of politics. Once the only people voting are Fox News victims and people who don't care about Israel, and Trump can shoot protestors and imprison his opponents like Navalny, I'm sure it'll all suddenly get better and less disappointing.
Never Play Defense is actually a better explanation of what you're doing than my initial moving-the-goalposts description. Replace "Feminist" with "Biden":
HOW can you support that GENOCIDER after he (Israel + Trump family separation + workers sick pay)
Then we have a long conversation where it is revealed that the workers actually got their sick pay, and Biden did in fact reverse some key border policies. We haven't really touched on Israel, because I actually agree with you that he should be doing much more, although he is putting sanctions on a small number of settlers which is a pretty unusually anti-Israel thing to do in the absolutely unspeakably evil pro-Israel policy which has been the US's thing to do with or without Biden for decades.
And yet, just as explained in the video, there's not a shred of: Oh! I'm a person who's interested in the truth, that's actually a good point about the 91% sick leave, I didn't know that. Nothing particularly truth-seeking or honest from your side. Just a continuous evolving flow of what your point is (now incorporating BLM and South American immigrants as the new line of attack), and always, always a tone as if you're obviously right and have the facts and the law on your side, which I have to "defend" against by bringing up facts. Which, if they rebut what you're saying, are discarded in favor of some new line of attack from your side.
I'm not interested in playing. Best of luck with your propaganda tho.
So Hilary did have the power to impact elections just by deciding to, but instead of using her powers to get herself elected, she decided to bend her will to getting Trump the nomination, specifically so that after she lost we'd have four years of Trump and then four years of Biden all leading up to her master plan to coming to fruition: An election between Biden and Trump which doesn't make much of a difference anyway, while she sits on the sidelines forgotten. Now that you point it out, I'm surprised I didn't see it before. It's all so clear now.
No, don't explain more about what you're claiming happened. I don't know what you think went on instead of what I just said, and I don't care.