If it really was just "a" meme, I wouldn't feel the need to say anything. The first 10 or 15 of them that I saw, I just kind of ignored without comment.
Vote for Biden, I don't care
I mean... you clearly do.
mozz
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Hey all, just a reminder:
All the influx of shilling on Lemmy positing memes which are "short, quippy, and wrong" in IS's terminology, leading ultimately to the conclusion "please don't vote, it's not worth it, it won't make a difference, and Biden's very very bad anyway" -- it's all for one simple reason: Voting works. It is one of the rare opportunities the normal-person population has to influence the people in charge, by some small degree. It's not enough, but it's also not to be wasted.
The whole reason there's all this investment of time and energy into manipulating people's opinions is the same reason there's so much energy towards manipulating their ability to vote in the first place: It's worth the investment of energy and money that it takes to do that. Because voting has power.
I think it's clear that an honest accounting of how Biden has been doing puts him well above average for establishment Democrats. Is that good enough? Fuck no. I am about to vote in the primary in my state and I would love if someone would give me a realistic way to support someone younger than Biden, or to move the Democrats effectively towards the actual left.
Also, all this blaming of Gaza specifically on Biden as if he was the one making the decisions about what the IDF should do on the ground, and talk about the election as if that one bad thing happening in the world undoes anything good he's done or anything 10 times more genocidal that Trump might do -- I actually really hope that that does succeed in breaking the US's unconditional and war-criminal support for Israel that's been going for 50+ years. Or at least moving it in the right direction. Let's see.
But again, take this kind of thing as the reminder that it should be: They are trying so hard to influence how you look at the election, because what you decide to do in the election matters, and they know that.
Let me translate
"Reddit was clearly a huge pile of ass. However, Lemmy is showing signs of the onset of a similar pattern of degradation -- most notably, trolls and shouty bad-faith argumentative users make it an unpleasant experience whenever any political topic is discussed. What proportion of them are deliberate trolls or paid shills, and what proportion actual homegrown obnoxious leftists, is unknowable and probably not super relevant. What is relevant is that the problem of creating meaningful discussion and an honest forum for good communication is by no means solved, simply because we've set up a nice network outside of the administrative control of bad-faith actors. We still have a lot of work to do to make it actually a nice place to exist."
"Also side note Lemmy has some UI and UX issues but honestly who gives a fuck, Reddit also had a miserable UI for all of its lifetime and that didn't make much of a difference, because the quality of the discussion is what makes a social network good or bad."
(Edit: Also, I upvoted this purely for that fact of stating an actually unpopular opinion)
People when paying for a newspaper, professional journalism being absolutely vital to the health of the republic: Pfft fuck that
People when paying for a streaming service serving hot garbage direct to their eyeballs: Yay more Star Wars
Honestly this is my favorite way I have heard it explained so far
Yeah. I actually tend to agree with you on this. On the other hand they did it in 2000 and it worked fine.
I wasn’t planning on any kind of frenzy, just thought it was an interesting and alarming read.
And you are aware that the article presents a convincing roadmap how Trump could try to seize power even if he loses the election, yes?
(Also I agree on voting for Biden being a critical way to help things the best we can. Why are you holding your nose though? He’s done a lot. I know a big list of pedestrian accomplishments including big stuff like student loan relief and marijuana clemency and new police regulation and other important things isn’t as quippy as shrieking “GENOCIDE JOE GENOCIDE JOE” like some mirror-image Donald Trump, as if everything Netanyahu does is something Biden’s happy about and thank god there’s all these Gazans dying because that’s exactly what he wanted. To me Biden is an above-average Democrat whose main problem is he’s just super old.)
There is no code somewhere else that needed to be written somewhere else to handle the error. It just started working because those lines were added. That's what I keep saying. That is the nature of the good design I am pleased by to give the example.
I'm such a stubborn person that I literally had a look in namei.c to see what happens from that return, to make sure. I was fairly confident that that's how it works, just because it's rare in kernel development to add a feature without the means to trigger it and then add the means to trigger it in a separate patch (why would it not just all go in at once?), but I had a look and here's what I saw:
- get_link() returns ELOOP
- In one case, vfs_readlink() returns an error straight to the user after going through the VFS layer
- In the more complex case where we were actually trying to follow it to do some other operation, pick_link() sees the error and returns an error
- Which is what gets returned from step_into()
- step_into() gets called from a bunch of places, but I looked at them briefly and quickly searched for ELOOP and NOSYMFOLLOW and convinced myself pretty well that there isn't anywhere that handles the error any differently than it would any other we-can't-do-this error, and ultimately it's going to just return the failure to the user. Because why would it do anything different? It looks to me although I'm not sure like step_into() up to walk_component() up to link_path_walk() up to path_lookupat() or path_openat() is sort of the main path you'd get to from userspace via do_file_open() or similar functions, and they all plan to just return the refusal to follow the symlink back to userspace.
Where are you getting your assertion that obviously it's already implemented somewhere else separate from this patch?
This is a nice thesis but the linked article is about granular segregation
Defending myself against fascism winning in this election, yes. Absolutely, 100%. I plan to continue to do so.
So, I actually agreed with most of what you just said, as of 2020. Biden seemed to me like another crooked rich white guy who's been in Washington all his life, and I didn't have real high hopes for him. You touched on a couple of specifics of his history that fed into that, yes. Honestly, I don't have real high hopes for the majority of the Democrats; I like Bernie Sanders and there are individual Democrats who do pretty good things from time to time but I think by and large Washington doesn't know and doesn't care what ordinary people need, and that's why the country is as fucked up as it is. The whole reason Trump was even able to have a showing in the election was because the Democrats, like the Republicans, have mostly turned their backs on working people ever since Jimmy Carter. I still voted for him obviously, because the available alternative was "let's invade Mexico let's kill the vice president if he won't play ball with seizing power," but it wasn't because I was real happy about the idea of Biden.
I was genuinely very surprised. He forgave a ton of student loan debt, he issued marijuana pardons, his economic policy actually seemed invested in benefits for working people. There's a common talking point about the rail strike -- did you know that his labor department kept working the issue after the strike, and got the workers their sick days? There's a whole list of stuff that he's done that radically outside the norm for a standard Bill Clinton center-right Democrat goon.
I also think it's weird to hammer on him for Gaza when he didn't invade Gaza and he didn't create the murderous pro-Israel foreign policy that's been a US mainstay for 50+ years -- basically, Biden is not the one committing genocide. I think the link "Biden = Genocide" is a talking point that anti-Biden people like to hammer on because there is some fairness to it. It's to his credit that he did put sanctions on a handful of Israeli settlers which is way outside the norm for US presidents. He is now using the words "cease-fire" which Western leaders as a rule tend to try to avoid saying because Israel doesn't want to stop killing people. Is any of that enough? Fuck no. Is he enabling Israel now? Yes. Do I hope that the political price he's paying for supporting Israel will convince him and future presidents to maybe not give them a free pass for their state-sponsored murder? Fuck yes. But he's not calling the shots on the ground for the IDF while they're killing people, either.
I mean, I'm obviously going to vote for him if he's the nominee. Not because I love the Democratic establishment or feel "allegiance" to them or anything, but because Trump is the end of the fucking world. I vote to try to produce better outcomes, and to me Trump is so clearly a Hitler-reincarnate that I would vote for a rotting whale carcass if it was running against him.
I genuinely do not get this "Biden is bad, so it's okay if someone 10 times worse wins the election" logic. I would actually really like to have some option for someone not Biden to support in the general election, but if it winds up that the DNC refuses to listen to reason and runs him again, I definitely plan to vote for him because... I mean, if you don't like Biden enabling genocide by not reversing US foreign policy (which, again, I don't either), then you're really going to hate it when Trump announces suddenly he's going to nuke Iran because it's full of vermin and dirty diseased people and he's sure that some of them are nice people but anyway we did it because all the military is full of his loyalists now.