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That, what you said, is a completely fair statement. Let me expand on it. Here's a pretty solid summary of what was in the original bill. Here's what actually passed. They are both, sadly, fucking tragically, too little, and absolutely unforgivably late. But, blaming that aspect of it on Biden specifically, when he just got here and started immediately fighting to get something unprecedented in American climate action to start happening the instant he got in, seems unfair. As does shifting the conversation away from "how much is this gonna do" and towards "does this involve giving money to oil companies" or similar focus-grouped talking points, blaming him for not doing more, and saying he's just the same as the people who stopped him from doing it.
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Dude just give it a rest. The transcript speaks for itself and you or me or any other person can just read it and form their conclusions. If you read it and your conclusions are some specific way, then of course you're welcome to that opinion.
It's just how propaganda works.
At any given time, there are a few different anecdotal-type "talking points" that are the new thing everyone's talking about. You're going to be hearing about Biden saying "an illegal" for a little while, even though as your transcript notes, it wasn't even him that chose the wording. People form their picture of the world through these little gestalt-facts, and if you can pick one that will shape the narrative you want to present, and arrange for people to hear it over and over from a variety of sources, and do that in a constant stream that all points to the same types of conclusions, it actually does a pretty good job at controlling how they'll perceive the totality of the situation.
It's almost exactly the same as how you will hear over and over that:
- We broke a record for fossil fuel extraction in 2023
- Biden's climate bill includes giving money to oil and gas companies
... and then all this weight of emotion behind how bad Biden is for the climate, how he's just the same, how it's such a shame that I as a good climate-change person can't support him... etc etc. Because the little factoids are in fact accurate, and properly sized and shaped to stick in your brain, they count as "supporting evidence" for Biden being bad on the climate.
The reality is, the way to analyze Biden's performance on the climate is to ask what's the total content of the climate bill he got passed, and what impact it's expected to have. That's it. Just like the reality is that how he performs on immigration has nothing at all to do with whether he said "an illegal" in this specific context.
If you hear someone repeating one of these specific little factoids, or if you start to see one specific one that is commonly repeated, my advice is to become suspicious of the message on top of which it is being placed, like a little evidence-cherry.
I watched the whole thing, and the vast majority of it, I agree with.
You keep assigning views to me (such as the liberal views this video is talking about) which I do not hold. I have no idea whether you're a Russian or a bot or anything like that, but I do suspect you of speaking from some sort of bad faith. Actually specifically, you dismissing what I'm saying by assigning me a viewpoint which is very different from my actual viewpoint, so that you can talk to me at length without addressing the things I am actually saying, is one big example of why.
At this point I'm just one more person on the pile but:
I used Android for years because I like open stuff, but iPhones are just straight-up better. There's all kinds of weird broken stuff on Androids, things that don't quite work or where the interface separating two parts of the device is a little awkward... my iPhone just does what it's supposed to do. It's hard to explain but there's just a clear difference in the quality level of the software. They seem like they polished it until it was genuinely done, as opposed to just shipping the thing and moving on with something else. Also the photos are better (same thing -- they clearly make it a priority). Also the security is much better, weirdly enough. I had to fight with the iPhone for quite a while trying to get a dashcam app, until I finally realized that the issue was that there was absolutely no way for an app to access the camera if it wasn't the foreground app with the camera light on. Android? Fuckin'-a Mr. App you can watch this person sleeping, just make sure you ask about it when you're first installed (and then refuse to install if the person says no).
Etc etc.
MacOS computers are pretty similar; good hardware, software isn't perfect but mostly solid, BSD backend with lots of solid tooling. They just generally are high-quality and reliable.
I think mostly the reason is, they have this weird cultish following that means they can charge a high price for their stuff and don't face constant pressure to make it a little crappier in hopefully-they-won't-notice ways to save a buck. So, you pay a little premium but what you get is good.
I figured you probably wouldn't be excited to be able to tell me all the details of how Biden's climate agenda isn't real when I specifically asked for them. Oh well. I'll have to go on having my weird mistaken beliefs on it. If only I'd been more polite, maybe you'd have been open to share your wisdom.
Have a good one. I will aspire to be more socially skilled in the future. God bless.
Just curious, that's all. I do something like that whenever I notice that the answers I'm getting have a notable disconnect as compared with the things they're answering.
In multiple messages now you've told me that I "agree that they suck" when I keep telling you, no, they don't (at least the Biden administration doesn't), and listing extensive reasons why. That to me is sort of bot like behavior, and I was curious. Sorry if I gave offense with it, but out of four times I've asked that sort of thing, you are literally the first one who answered the question; some continued talking to me without responding to the fact that I was asking math questions.
Anyway. Picking out one example of the ones I gave: Can you share with me what your estimate is of the total reduction in emissions as a result of the climate bill? Or some estimate of what its ultimate results will be? I've looked into it a little bit, but I'm interested to know what you've found out on closer inspection.
Imagine someone who's familiar with /r/birdsarentreal finding one of these in real life without knowing the punchline
A thing like that could shatter you. Am I even real? Did I create this place? Am I a brain in a storage locker somewhere, and it's all just made up for me? What are they trying to tell me now, when they show me these things? Am I being tested?
Because it is.
Very literally. It's been designed in a certain way to manipulate people's feelings in a particular way so that they will vote in a particular useful fashion. The people designing the campaigns don't care about "woke" in the slightest, and the electoral outcomes it's all designed to produce have nothing to do with it, either.
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