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These Latinos gonna get a big surprise if Trump wins

Some types of leaders like to engineer (through inaction) attacks on their own country, because that will justify the type of situation they like to have. More or less: (a) you can't get rid of me! Look how dangerous things are (b) we have to keep killing them, they deserve it, look what they did.

I have no idea if Netanyahu's that way, or if the intelligence failures came just from the cloud of incompetence that for some reason tends to surround far-right leaders. But the first one definitely seems possible.

(Oh also sometimes (c) my friends who sell weapons are gonna get rich rich rich)

The time I saw it, the researcher said specifically that they'd observed it on Android. Whether that means that that feature of TikTok is only an Android thing because of the feature you're talking about, I don't know, but that would make some kind of sense yes.

All good 👍🏻

Don’t be fully comfortable… not a single one of these people who have to have their plastic bats padded even to hit a padded dummy with them, would say boo if the Oathkeepers busted into congress during January 6th 2.0 and started executing progressives.

That's an excellent point - I did point out elsewhere in the thread the Democratic bill to legalize marijuana on a federal level, the executive pardon of anyone in prison for possession, and the request to the DEA to reschedule marijuana, all of which the Biden administration did, and which are all good things.

It's a good point, and I'm glad you brought it up.

Honestly it would be a great Biden campaign ad.

Just this video, and then that caption fading in, and then fade out and "Paid for by the blah blah blah" and that's the end.

the perfect be the enemy of the good. Incrementalism

That’s an excellent point - it is absurd to talk in terms of “I can’t support Joe Biden because there are still items on my progressive wish list where he isn’t a clear enough improvement over the historical norm.” The fact that he’s objectively a huge step forward as pertains to climate change / student loans / marijuana legalization / etc, is a good reason to vote for him for as long as he’s a clear improvement (over the norm, let alone over the horrifying alternative in this particular election). While yes obviously continuing to work to move things forward towards real continued progress because we need more on top of that.

It’s a good point, and I’m glad you brought it up.

Someone studied in detail the Jean-Paul Sartre playbook I see.

Por que no los dos

There are absolutely paid troll farms at work on social media, it's well-documented, and the big social media companies actually regularly have meetings with each other to share intel about combating them.

Whether any individual user is one of them, or a homegrown troll, or just a confused person, is probably not worth the time and energy to try to determine.

This is the point in the circle of bad-faith arguments where, the marijuana thing clearly being bullshit, we segueway into a series of unrelated talking-point arguments instead of staying on the sinking ship that was the OP argument.

Do you want me to copy-paste a detailed counterargument for each of your first two points, to respond to the "short quippy wrong" talking-point version? If you want to change the subject. The last one I don't have something already prepared but the first two I've seen verbatim enough times that I can easily go back and grab a good response for them.

Oh sorry I thought we were in a political discussion sub and you answered a message where I asked a relevant question. How can I help you instead?