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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah the way I presented my pretend survey was pretty confusing I think. The three bullet points were meant as the three possible answers, by way of explanation of why the polls about "are you better off etc" look the way they do. I am not a Trump supporter, no.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

within the framework of gender binary

Oh no... okay that's on me. I adjusted the analogy to one that's independent of gender issues.

But actually, I do agree with your analogy as applied to boy/girl, and the whole rest of what you're saying here. It's more or less what I was saying actually, I think -- tankies and ancaps have quite a lot in common with one another and the answer lies somewhere else entirely.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

In what way is asking what you believe on a topic most geopolitically-interested left wing people have pretty strong opinions on, "bait"?

Edit: You know what, don't feel like you have to answer that; I don't want to continue the back and forth and I feel like the exchange so far pretty much speaks for itself.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Ah. So somehow we've meandered our way back around from Central and South America to "Voting is a waste of time; I as a good left-wing person am going to vote third party and here's why."

Welp, now that we've had that blistering rebuttal to what I was saying about how the shills operate, I have to get on with my day. All the best, love and kisses.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I mean, "opposite" implies some kind of continuum that they're both placed on. "Up" is the opposite of "down," it's not up vs. banana.

In this case, I'm comfortable saying that on the "bullshit politics I learned from the internet that sound clever but are in practice an instant disaster to anyone living through them" continuum, tankies and ancaps are like sugar and spice.

Edit: Oh no what have I done... I adjusted the analogy to a gender neutral one

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
  1. Unlike a lot of Democrats, he's actually not a shit sandwich. I know, I'm as surprised as anybody.
  2. I have bad news for you about what Trump is gonna do. He's not gonna have to supply anybody engaged in genocide or be "complicit" in it or present any kind of argument about whether him being rude to Netanyahu deserves any credit or anything, because he's just going to be the one genociding. We already had concentration camps under Trump, and they have a detailed plan for how to take it much further this time.
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it does though.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Wait, have I misunderstood? Who are you planning to vote for / do you think people should vote for in the general election in November?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 2 years ago

I put together a short list of the unprecedented things Biden has done domestically that make him a good choice to lead the country, although "not the end of democracy" would be a good enough reason to vote for him over Trump anyway.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm just as disgusted that he's enabling genocide in Gaza as most people. I carry a certain amount of hope that he's going to stop, and I'm extremely in favor of the Ukraine and Israel aid bills being brought up as separate bills as they are now being brought up as. But let's see what the historically-Israel-supporting-no-matter-what rich fucks in congress do with it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 2 years ago (11 children)

No particular opinion about it you want to share?

I would think as a person with opinions so strong about geopolitics and America's role in the world, that you'd be okay with enabling Hitler 2.0 to come to power in your own country because of them... you'd have some kind of opinion on it, even if it wasn't directly relatable to any current election going on just right at this moment.

Just one of those little mysteries, I guess.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

bills to further fund both Ukraine’s defence and Israel’s military effort against Hamas would be brought up separately

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 14 points 2 years ago

Weirdly apropos quote with a fairly frightening resonance to today:

"Well… maybe so. This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and say it—that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable. The tragedy of all this is that George McGovern, for all his mistakes and all his imprecise talk about “new politics” and “honesty in government,” is one of the few men who’ve run for President of the United States in this century who really understands what a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race this country might have been, if we could have kept it out of the hands of greedy little hustlers like Richard Nixon. McGovern made some stupid mistakes, but in context they seem almost frivolous compared to the things Richard Nixon does every day of his life, on purpose, as a matter of policy and a perfect expression of everything he stands for. Jesus! Where will it end?"

-HST

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