Musk responds that Lemon “loves censorship”
There it is, there's the tasty tasty mean-spirited irony I was looking for. I am content; I can stop paying attention to this now.
mozz
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Two things can be true
It can be nakedly hypocritical, this Kabuki theater of oh woe is me it's so difficult to do anything of substance to reign in these companies, it's just politically very tricky what with the free market and all-- oh it's Chinese and they don't give me money? Fuck 'em get 'em out of here, 50-0, fuckin ban it.
And at the same time Tiktok can also be legitimately a much more dangerous company than Facebook or Lehman Brothers or whatever, even as regular-criminal dangerous as those two and the rest of the bunch are.
If only there was someone in government who was workin on that shit
(I don't know how directly the simple 15% minimum has already impacted things, but taking a quick look at e.g. Amazon, it definitely looks like they're paying more after December of 2022 versus before.)
Arguing with who? If they can get you deflected by starting an argument about something else, that's on you. Just say "Lol nice Gish Gallop" and continue explaining the truth.
Here's an example of what I was talking about -- it's a little bit shooting fish in a barrel because the guy was pretty unpopular anyway, but I still felt it was worth articulating some of the positive-side talking points (not just "Biden's good I like him," which is easy to misconstrue into something, but specific tangible examples that are easy to get your head around). But, at the same time, calling out how silly the person's POV on it was. You can't get drawn into a back-and-forth, no; that side of it I do agree with. But if you're playing cards with someone and they're trying to cheat, it's absolutely okay to point out "hey he's cheating, this is how" as long as you're also continuing to play the game.
I love how matter of fact he is. There's absolutely no hostility, just facts.
"I am."
"Leave the camera with your mother, and you can come inside."
"Step back."
It's like every word has to be carefully and neutrally chosen, because they carry the weight of the hammer of God behind them.
I absolutely think that if someone's shifting topics aggressively as an argumentation tactic it's productive to point it out.
You don't gotta dwell on it but calling out if someone's using bad faith tactics is part of your communication with the audience (and then, I agree, pivot it back around to just talking about what you wanted to talk about.)
As much as I hate to say it, I think learning to make use of the same communication strategies that bad-faith argument people tend to use is the way to go. In specific:
- You're not trying to "win" against the person you're talking to. That is, in a lot of cases, impossible. You're trying to communicate your message to an audience (which, sure, includes the person you're talking to). You're not limited to the framework the person is trying to give you. You can just say your message.
- Short, tangible talking points can be more effective than detailed and accurate explanations. Pick one thing that's true that encapsulates a little example that's hard to deny about the way you're saying the world is, and stick to it. This technique is so effective that it can create a narrative even if the overall world-picture it creates isn't actually accurate; if the narrative you're trying to construct actually matches with reality, then you'll have a broader base of little exemplar anecdotes to draw from.
- Stay patient, don't get irritated, don't feel like you have to "respond" to everything. If the other person's talking in good faith and asks a relevant question, then sure, you should answer it. But if they're just doing a Gish Gallop or something, it may be more effective to call out the Gish Gallop and keep explaining your own POV than to try to debunk every single thing, or to get them to "agree" or pin them down to something they're saying that's wrong, when they're not interested in cooperating and the effort will just derail you from making your own side of the argument.
This is accurate - I think you’re right; it would have been more realistic for me to list it as one of a number of important factors working in the US’s favor.
He's Jewish Dick Cheney. Netanyahu is a monster but he has the ability to be good at things. No one can match Trump's absolutely unique blend of being bad and wrong at every single thing individually, each to a literally unbelievable degree. It's like good music. It has to come straight from the heart.
It was intended just as some constructive criticism
Yeah, I agree with this. According to the only person I know that works at Tesla, he's always been an asshole and was best avoided generally speaking. But I do feel like he used to be a lot more normal-techbro-socially-inept asshole guy than today's darkly deliberate evil.
That little clip of him running outside to watch one of the early SpaceX rockets take off, all excited, I really was on his side. IDK what went wrong. I feel like maybe inside him there's still a wide-eyed nerd that just wants to make really good electric cars and go to Mars, and something went wrong and that guy got buried deep down, and maybe now he'll never get free.