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Let me know when you get your piracy instance set up, and where it is and whether I can go there and do whatever I want on it
Stimulating discussion as always
Which of those policies did Biden make worse and how? Both of what you listed (remain in Mexico and asylum only through a port of entry) are Trump policies. I know Trump did family separation and Biden started the task force to reunite families; did that make things worse?
Things have gotten substantially worse simply because the number of migrants has gone up, but Biden has been fighting with the Republicans to try to get more judges to clear the backlog of asylum cases, trying to get them not to drown people in the Rio Grande, things like that. Do you have some specific policy that he's actually made worse?
What is your source for what you're saying about sick days? Here is mine; the unions and the news have been saying that as of October, 91% of rail workers have sick days (and that link has a link to a PDF that's a little fact sheet about different roles and the benefits they get).
Biden has not taken serious action to reduce grocery prices or other necessities. That's great that he taxed corporations but that doesn't put food on the table. His fixation on shrinkflation can be seen in his speeches. And that's the slight improvement from his attempt to take a victory lap on an economy people are still struggling in. We aren't dumb and we aren't blind.
I honestly don't see anything to respond to here. It kinda sounds like a campaign ad -- "doesn't put food on the table" "we aren't dumb." If you want to talk about his economic performance in terms of the numbers instead of the fee fees you're welcome to and I'll respond to what you have to say, but otherwise I'm comfortable with what I've said so far.
I know whenever a US president tries to legalize marijuana federally and spend a trillion dollars on student loan forgiveness and climate change and more or less doubles the amount of tax Amazon is paying, I'm like "wow, nothing is changing."
I would love a Bernie Sanders person who would do more. Do you know what Trump might do if he wins the election to Bernie Sanders or an activist organization who's advocating for even more systemic change?
Let's rap
He completely flipped on immigration. He left Trump era policies in place and made them worse.
Which policies?
He shut down the biggest union action in the last decade.
There were 458,900 workers involved in work stoppages in 2023, notably including the motion pitcture strike which is the bulk of that huge bar up at the top of the graph. It looks to me like the rail strike involved about 1,100 workers, barely visible down at the bottom. You're talking about the rail strike, yes? You didn't say so but that's the one I'm aware of him shutting down and the talking point that y'all like to use. The rail strike wasn't the biggest union action in the last decade or in 2023; it wasn't 1% of the union action in 2023.
What it looks like to me is that he shut down the rail strike because it would have a big impact on the rest of the economy, then his labor department kept working the issue and got the workers their sick days anyway.
Your assertion is that because he shut down 0.2% of the strikes that happened in 2023, for specific reasons, and then got the workers what they were asking for anyway, he's a bad president for labor?
(Edit: Hang on, is the rail strike not in that chart? Maybe because it didn't happen or it started in 2022, it doesn't show there. I'm trying to look up now how many workers were actually involved; it was more than 1,100.)
(Edit 2: I am totally wrong -- it was 115,000 workers, in 2022 and way more sizable than what I was saying. I still stick with the point that if Biden was anti-union he would have done something about some of the 458,900 people who went on strike in 2023.)
He's sending weapons to a genocidal regime.
No argument. It's fucked. There are some things he's doing better than a normal president and much much better than Trump, but yes, it's fucked. Hopefully all the noise about a break with Netanyahu starts to turn into less dead or starving Palestinians.
His idea of economic problems is shrinkflation. While grocery stores and land lords have a third of the country over the barrel.
I ... what?
He instituted a minimum 15% corporate tax, he forgave $138 billion worth of student loans, he came out of the COVID apocalypse with the lowest unemployment in 20 years and the strongest recovery out of any first-world country by a pretty decent margin... I honestly can't even tell what you're complaining about here. You're assigning him an idea about what he thinks, and then complaining that his economics are bad because of nothing about what actually happened but because of the belief you assigned him?
I can keep going. Should I keep going? Should I talk about the continuation of Trump's trade war with China? The protectionist legislation he championed so auto manufacturers can keep prices up and quality down?
Let's stick with those four initial points for a second. What immigration policies? I have a bunch to say about his immigration policies, but I want to know what Trump-era policies you're even talking about him making worse before I say too much about it.
Hah! Okay makes perfect sense, threads be confusing for me apparently. My apologies.
This doesn’t bode real well 🙂
You just have to scroll up:
If y'all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I'm just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn't. It's not just that it's not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing much more than that); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things:
- He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
- He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to forgive $138 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls” resistance.
- He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
- He achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.
The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won't defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. (And, for what it's worth, "the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots" I'll also fully agree with.)
All the folks that like to post memes like this haven't had much success in trying to say any of the above isn't true.
Feel free to respond to my list of facts
Free speech is I get to shut you up if you “silence” me by disagreeing
I actually firmly agree with you on that. I've had extensive conversations over the years on the internet with people I disagree with. Tankies, MAGA people, for-real kinda-could-be-neo-Nazis, standard liberals I disagree with for one of a variety of reasons. Lots of people. I actually feel fairly confident in saying that the "don't-vote-for-Biden" people on Lemmy behave very very differently from the way people with sincerely held beliefs behave.
Like it would be surprising to see a tankie posting a "Putin is great" meme and someone comes in the comments and says "actually Putin sucks" and they're like pff, don't have time for that, I gotta post another Putin-is-great meme. It's just unusual. Seeing five of them all doing it the same way in the same community is just weird.
Not every person is obligated to "argue" with me or anyone else if they don't want to. But most people with political beliefs, in my experience, are interested to relay them to somebody. They actually kind of like finding someone who doesn't agree with them, so they can tell them why they're wrong. The shills kind of only have two settings: They either throw at the other person baseless and random claims and hostility, like no real grounding in any kind of belief system, only just "against" the other person, or else abandonment. That's unusual.
Call me Charlie Kelly but this is how I see it
Because better outcomes are better than worse ones. Maybe a second term for Biden would enable him to maintain the policies that are planned to remove a billion tons per year of CO2 emissions, maybe even add a little to it, whereas Trump would reverse even those pitifully small gains and actually add to US emissions. Maybe 20 years down the road that little bit is what tips us into a "luckier" (relatively speaking) outcome, avoids a total runaway greenhouse effect that literally kills us all, and we get away with merely mass starvation and the loss of most of the biosphere. But humanity gets to continue after that within the wreckage, having learned an agonizing lesson about the consequences of its actions, instead of being extinguished.
Do you brush your teeth? Why? Why would you need a job, if because with the way the climate is going you may not grow old enough for your money or the state of your teeth to matter at all?