mozz

joined 2 years ago
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When a cop ask you questions, only answer what you are required to answer.

Yep. You have to tell them your name and ID yourself, you have to get out of the car if they tell you to, but you don't have to say shit about what did or didn't happen. Even if you haven't been read your rights there are still some circumstances where the bodycam can be played and used against you in court. It only takes 2 seconds for one random thing to come out of your mouth that you can't take back that can perfectly make the case against you, and put you away.

The cops' job is to catch bad people and put them away. That is fine, you don't gotta be hostile or deliberately make everyone's day unpleasant, but if you're in the crosshairs as a potential bad person don't say a goddamned word until you talk to a lawyer. Anything helpful for your side about you talking to them will still be helpful after you talk to a lawyer.

For as much as I don't agree with him stealing, this guy actually shows a great example of how it works (all sides - the manipulation of dude-just-be-honest and his correct response to it; obeying all the lawful orders but telling them to GFY whenever they ask him questions.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q59Fd5ClUc&t=980s

"I'm not admit to a god damned thing. Prove it."

(Honestly I wouldn't even say that much, because they can maybe play that in court and say see he knew he was guilty. Just, I don't want to talk to you about it until I talk to a lawyer first.)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Rinse your razor in cold water when you’re shaving

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 2 years ago

“That’ll be the worst atrocity in history that your children or grandchildren be reading about that we’ve done,” he said.

What if my children or grandchildren can't read about it, because they starved after climate change induced massive crop failure

MR. MANCHIN WHAT THEN

COME BACK, ANSWER ME

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wholeheartedly agree. At least one of them actually did get removed as misinformation (which, it clearly was; it was particularly blatantly dishonest and OP was making no effort in the comments to argue that it wasn't.)

In my opinion though it's actually better for it to be around. I think as long as I or someone wants to take the time for a detailed factual rebuttal, the overall impact on the community is actually a net positive. Debate is a good thing, and the shills aren't doing a real good job of selling their case; they're just using a fairly blunt Goebbels-style endless repetition tactic, and doing such a hamfisted and obvious job with it that people seem like they're mostly seeing through it at this point.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Glad you like it, happy to bring the discourse

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ha. I get where you're coming from; I do give the whole topic maybe more energy than it deserves. It is an important thing to me though.

And no I don't hound OP or the other accounts I suspect of being shills. OP in particular posts a pretty nonstop flood of this stuff, and if I see some posting he's made that irritates me because it seems grossly misleading of the truth, I'll make a comment on it (and reference my belief that he's a shill). But it's not because he was the one that posted it or born out of any kind of vendetta. It's just that reaction of "wtf, that's wrong" when a post I disagree with comes into my feed, and a little bit of just academic curiosity about my they-are-shills theory.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The three most important things in life

Learn Laugh Olive

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In all honesty, the shills started to convince me that it's important enough that I might start volunteering for the Biden campaign or something. If I do wind up doing it, I'll be sure to let you know.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Maybe it takes me less time to type these things than you have as frame of reference

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