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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

we're literally at the highest peak of fossil fuel generation in recorded history

Not literally true; the most recent figures I've seen make it look like US field production of crude oil has been going down since November 2023. But you sort of have a point as regards continued extraction going up and up, which is a problem. If anything I am saying sounds like "and that's why everything is fine and we don't need to reduce anything else at this point," I am not saying that.

There's a huge amount of the impact of the Democrats' action in the last 4 years which is not simply extraction, though. Here's a summary of the estimate of the impact, and here's a followup about how it's been going.

If you want to have a conversation about how the law is working in practice, which is based on analysis instead of on talking points, then sure we can do that. But I feel like the direction of "and that's why it doesn't matter who is president" (if that is something that would argue -- not putting words in your mouth, just getting to the heart of the matter) will be incompatible with almost any conceivable fact based analysis of what's going on.

and using tariffs to block truly affordable green energy products

Faaaascinating

So you're super upset about the tariffs on Chinese EVs, but you don't really care about other aspects of recent legislation regardless of their impact on the landscape? Do I have that right?

wages across the board have not kept up with the cost of living

Depends on how you measure. This is the first result I came up with when looking into it -- however, there's an important aspect of it that that doesn't delve into. Working class wages rose by about 32% during that period, unadjusted -- meaning that yes inflation ate up 20 percentage points of that gain, but also, the poorest Americans actually saw wages go up by a massive amount even under the punishing 2022 inflation. That, to me, is notable, and highly unusual even for a Democratic president (because yes they are corporate friendly scum quite a lot of the time; on that we can agree). No? I'm not bothered that tech workers at the top of the scale lost 3% of their wages relative to inflation, if you pick the exact right start and end points.

biden literally created the student loan problem

Fuckin citation needed lol

democrats went out of their way to block the only truly socialist for president both times

True dat

Fuck the DNC; on that we can agree

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

it used to be project 1980 and it has updated every single election year with both democrats and republicans enabling almost 75% of it so far.

40% reduction in greenhouse emissions by 2030, income inequality dropping for the first time in IDK how long, working-classes wages rising even outpacing historic inflation, unions domestic manufacturing reforms on policing IDK what else, student loan forgiveness by hundreds of billions of dollars. And all of that was after the Republicans blocked like 80% of what Biden tried to do.

GTFO with your "both sides." You're actually 100% right as it was applied to the Clinton era and how it put us into this mess in the first place, but IDK if you've noticed that several decades have passed since then and the Democrats have changed substantially. They almost nominated a socialist for president, for one.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Try 10%

The Lancet estimated 186,000 dead which would be 8%, but noted that there's no real way to know. Since they were a little conservative with their guesswork and about 6 weeks have passed since then, I think 10% dead out of Gaza's population of 2 million is highly likely by now.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Presumably they don't post the ones where it works and the drone crashes

I suspect it is useless just because of the pace of technological development on the Ukraine side vs. the Russian side, but just the existence of some videos where the EW isn't working doesn't mean it's not working.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, 100% agree

Lemmy has a sizable, vocal minority

This part I think is the key portion

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seeing this picture of JD Vance made it all make sense.

The suits, the apparent eyeliner, the sudden radical changes of viewpoint, the book, the sucking up to fascists as long as they will keep paying his bills and tell him he’s acceptable. All of it. It just kind of all clicked into focus.

No hate for people who were big and awkward in high school. It’s all good, and you don’t have to grow up into the modern monstrosity that is Vance just because this is where you started. He’s actually clearly smarter than a lot of the people in that orbit. He should know better; that’s one of the things that made it all weird and hard to understand. I’m just saying that seeing where he started makes it make sense all the little incongruities about where he ended up, as of now.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the context for the thousands separator thing. They seem willfully committed to pretending not to understand the question or realize why it might be something someone would ask about, in a way that seems like a very unlikely way for a non-shill user to respond. To me.

Here's another one where the user is posting a pretty steady tide of propaganda (like, literally, videos from channels which are featured on rt.com) and not wanting to answer questions about what they're posting. I get that the questions aren't phrased real friendly-like, but they're not like random or senseless questions, and the user doesn't seem fazed at all by them or interested at all in the idea of demonstrating that they're posting in good faith.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both race and the circumstances of the crime are going to impact their being charged as an adult, and the sentence they receive. The existence of racism doesn’t mean that the circumstances of the case will now have 0 bearing on their punishment - it’s not one or the other; it is both.

Like I say, the system is racist, yes. It feels like you just seized on an opportunity to lecture about racism and deny the existence of literally any other factor being possible except for race. It’s childish and reductive and hostile to things that are necessary for understanding the world. Stop doing that. This will be my last message to you on this topic.

My assumption that the trend in this article is based on racism is because that is absolutely a thing that happens.

I could say that people order vanilla ice cream more than chocolate because of racism, and then if someone said that wasn’t true I could cite a bunch of statistics about how racism is absolutely a thing that happens and get mad at them for denying the impact of racism, and it would make an equal amount of sense as your argument here.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah, that part makes perfect sense. Getting hostile and pretending not to understand the question is what seemed more damning to me about it.

You’re right that there’s no way to know for sure. But to me the circumstantial evidence is very strong.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am saying your point is based on flawed assumptions.

What flawed assumptions?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 1 year ago
  1. I will not
  2. Done thank you
[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I am also confused by why there would be organized shills on Lemmy. But to me the evidence is pretty clear (e.g. an account that's super into talking about US politics that one day uses $5.000.000 with decimal points to separate thousands in a number, and people ask hey what's up with that are you not from the US? and they get hostile and pretend not to understand the question) (e.g. a strong correlation between accounts that say "Democrat party" and that want you not to vote for the Democrats claiming to come from a left wing point of view) (things like that).

IDK, there are a few tens of thousands of people on Lemmy; maybe it makes sense to allocate a single person from a troll farm to run a bunch of accounts. I have no idea. It also seems weird to me, I get what you're saying, but to me it does seem clear that quite a few of them are here.

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