mozz

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 2 years ago

It's such a weird confluence of idea quality

Breeding the glowing cats is such a genius idea for a long lasting radiation warning that'll survive whatever societal upheaval over time (assuming you can do it and they wind up also working as normal cats)

Assuming that this song will survive when the simple one-sentence factual information "Hey if the cats start glowing it's radiation GTFO" is so patently wrong

I get the idea that it is more brainstorming than actual serious proposal, but even within that realm

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Im not telling to vote for Trump. I'm not even telling you to not vote for Biden. I'm telling you to fucking ask for something in exchange for the vote.

There's a separate argument about what the value democracy is if it can't be expected not to support genocide, but I'm not even pressing that issue.

Yeah, I feel you on that. Like I keep telling you, direct action or directly giving Biden a hard time on Gaza sounds great.

Saying you aren't going to vote if Biden doesn't see reason doesn't put Trump in the white house, it puts pressure on Biden. What you actually do on election day is different, but campaigning for Biden despite his genocidal complicity is so far from activism that it's borderline complicit in the genocide in itself.

And let me ask again: Would this logic also apply to refusing to support the SDP over the NSDAP in the 1932 elections? As a lot of the left did exactly that during the infighting that preceded Hitler's ascendance.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Be willing to put yourself in harms way (trump)

There it is

You understand that it's not just me in harm's way with Trump, right?

That he's far more pro genocide (including specifically in Palestine) than Biden is?

I'm so confused because you do seem genuine but for some reason no matter how close I walk you to the conclusion you still somehow miss the point.

Believe it or not, there is often more to a conversation than you just walking the person you're talking to over to the point that you want to make and repeating it in different ways until they absorb your way of seeing it.

I could be right or wrong; I'm just saying how I see things. But if your whole model for this is that your viewpoint is the correct one, and you need to persuade the person you're talking to to see things exactly as you do and anything else is just a frustrating expenditure of bytes, then I think you're gonna get limited benefit from any amount of time you spend online.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (24 children)

Yes, I know what Gandhi's saying. I'm asking how you'd apply it to the present day, and you're deflecting instead of answering.

You keep fast-forwarding to voting day

Oh sorry I must have replied to a message under the wrong meme or something; the one on my screen is different I guess.

(Edit: Also there's this)

I keep asking you to clarify what you're saying, and you treat it like it's some sort of trick, and react with tactics instead of clarity. That's a hallmark of propaganda. Just say what you mean, if you feel confident enough to stand your ground in it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 28 points 2 years ago

Not only that, Giuliani specifically was very invested in making life as difficult as possible for the homeless during his time as mayor.

I would like to think that a vengeful God with some dark humor might put him in front of a judge arguing about it in person, so that the judge could have a chance to make the point to him while his own personal precious balls are in the vice he was so happy to construct for others.

"Well, that shouldn't be a problem. Surely there are extensive services available for the homeless to help them get back on their feet. I'm sure you'll be fine."

"No? Well, what if they lost their living situation as a result of criminal proceedings? Are there special exemptions to allow them to avoid homelessness in cases like that, or for leniency in the cases against them?"

"I'm surprised. I would have thought that it's such a basic human right that some provision would have been made."

"Oh well. Well, you would know better than I would; I think you were in government at one time and dealt with the policies yourself."

"I understand that, Mr. Giuliani, but we do have other cases."

"Bailiff? Could you remove him? I think our interaction is pretty much completed."

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know a socialist came within like 20 feet of the Democratic nomination in 2016 and probably would have won the general, right

A lot of people trying to organize to improve their situation in much harder conditions would call you a coward and quitter for just throwing your hands up in this absolutely abject surrender. You're still free, you can speak your mind on Lemmy, you can vote or organize. That's already like 5 big steps up. Just whining about it like "boo hoo all the neoliberals in power won't just hand it over to me even though I asked them to" is some fuckin weak sauce.

I actually don't agree that Biden's economic policies are of a piece with all the neoliberal Democratic-party bullshit that's been on offer ever since Reagan took down Jimmy Carter's solar panels. But that's neither here nor there; the main point is your rampant defeatism is a bunch of conveniently-means-I-don't-have-to-do-anything crap.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (27 children)

I thought we had worked this out earlier, talking about Bull Connor. I was all on board when I thought you were saying, let's give Biden a hard time over Gaza. Now I'm a lot less sure what you're saying.

Do you think working as a collaborator of the Raj, is more or less the same as voting for the clearly less-genocide-supporting of two arguably-genocide-supporting candidates?

Would this apply also to refusing to vote for Boutwell over Connor, or refusing to vote for the SDP (with all its colonial adventures in Africa and etc) over the NSDAP in prewar Germany?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Literally every single time I have presented my players with an unaccompanied child who's asking for help, they've believed it to be some treacherous magical creature or illusion designed to lure them into some horrible trap.

It's never been those things. It's always just been a lost child. But every time, without fail, they spring to their guard, they start detecting magic, all kinds of things. I honestly have no idea where they got the idea that that's what lost children mean.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 years ago

that definition you quoted seems pretty on point with what almost every IS president in my memory has been doing

Absolutely accurate yes, which is what made it surprising when Biden started doing different things

a little bit of protectionism in a specific industry sector is a drop in the bucket

So if he were doing a whole lot more things than that little bit of protectionism in one specific industry sector...

(I sent a link earlier on)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Factual Reporting: HIGH

I'm not familiar but I just went and looked over their front page, and all I can say is wow. My favorite story was: "Why we must embrace the UN ceasefire resolution: Ramadan will be over before we know it, and we can use the time to regroup, train, and buy some international good-will along the way."

Country: Israel MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MODERATE FREEDOM

This is incredibly notable, too. Saying Israel has "moderate freedom" is like saying apartheid South Africa had moderate freedom, with quite literally the 100% exact same little invisible asterisk after the statement.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I feel you on that; it's a fair point.

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