Personally I like upvotes/downvotes. Both are pretty useful information to have and those are the two numbers that my brain translates most cleanly into seeing what's going on.
Also I want to put in my perennial pitch for the software to display a popup or something the first time you vote, saying hey warning your votes are not private on any federated software! Don't vote with an expectation of privacy.
Literally all I meant by putting "misspoke" in quotes was, as a general rule I think that term is bullshit. It's this kind of Kellyanne Conway thing "let's not examine in detail whether I was mistaken, or lied on purpose, or I fumbled words and didn't mean to say what I said, the important thing is it doesn't count, let's not examine which of those it was..."
I get where it came across as me being rude and sarcastic and I apologize. I walked it back as a joke right after because you actually didn't do any of that -- like I said, I thought what you did was fine and I was just giving you some grief over using the word. And the truth is yeah I have no idea if you really were mistaken or just made some epic typo or something, so maybe I should take your word for it if you really are swearing up and down that you knew the truth and just typed it out the way you typed it for an accidental reason.
I think you're taking this as like a personal thing directed solely at you. It's not. It's just people talking on the internet which sad to say is not always polite. But yeah since I was directing some offensive things at you I apologize about that.
I watched it. I missed the part where he said he's happy about what's happening in Gaza and affirmatively wants it to continue.
Yeah, agreed. I think it's by far a good thing that we've been lucky enough so far that they haven't been used beyond that one time.
I actually think there's an unspoken factor that is why people actually treat nuclear weapons so differently: There is no way in the modern day that any leader anywhere in the world can start a nuclear war and be sure it won't come back and impact them and their family. Unlike other war things, it's never safely insulated in some faraway place happening to other people.
It would be nice to think that the taboo is because of the horrible consequences, but we're doing things with horrible consequences every day. I think it's because of the pure calculus of what might happen to me and people I care about, right away.
War is weird.
Firebombing wooden cities night after night? All good carry on.
Poison gas? Whoa WTF are you some kind of monster.
There was a weird little side note in a debate about using nuclear weapons in Vietnam. Someone in the Pentagon on the pro side said, more or less: War is total. People die. If you're killed in a war, it makes absolutely no difference whether it was from being shot, or stabbed, or blown up by a nuclear bomb. People die and that's the end for them. That's war, that's what we're talking about, don't get all squeamish about it now.
I don't agree with bombing Vietnam obviously, but I do feel like there's an essential point about war there that is often papered over; people become horrified by some things about war while remaining fine with other things.
Are you observing me repeatedly trying to move on? Saying, yeah my main disagreement was with the mod in question, all good.
IDK, maybe you're trying to correct the record on why you wrote the initial statement, in which case fine.
100% agreed. I wasn't saying it at all as a good thing or justified when it happens, just observing that it's surprisingly common / easy to fall into.
Am I being combative? I'm being blunt, a little bit, but IDK how you got from "What you said sounded fine to me" to combativeness. All I meant by putting "misspoke" in quotes was, it wasn't a typo or something; you very clearly (edit: ~~misunderstood the math~~) were wrong and IDK how anybody should be getting mad at someone else coming into it and giving the correct math instead. Doesn't sound like anyone was coming with any bad intention though, just a little arguing about what's going on, normal stuff.
The deleted comment's in the modlog; it was:
I provided sources on how they are incorrect. Provide sources supporting their claims or get fucked. And don't bother with the popularity shit, that isn't what's being contested nor is that what the comment says.
Yeah. Humans are tribal. It's natural to want to defend your grouping whether they're right or wrong, it's as much built in as liking to eat good food and being happy at the beach.
Ah yes, "misspoke."
I kid. What you said sounded fine to me actually; you said something wrong, someone called you out, you said "okay you are right" but defended your overall point which I think was pretty legitimate, there was a little hostility from both sides, the end.
I had nothing to do with the conversation btw, I just observed it. But my comment here was more calling out the mod for telling people directly that they needed to revise their comments to be according to his liking, and deleting them when they weren't, peeking out from behind a fig-leaf of it being because of the hostility instead of the viewpoint that was being expressed.
All good
We're all a bunch of internet weirdos who take things too seriously
Maybe it's just me