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Then who the fuck are you complaining about?

I am complaining about the people who are trying to make the Democrats lose the general election, with no particular plan to translate that into good action from the Democrats on Gaza, all the while congratulating themselves about what a great and noble thing they're doing. I can cite many of them on Lemmy. I assume that they exist in the real world also, and that a bunch of them will show up this week at the convention.

I am not complaining about the people who are trying to get better outcomes for Gaza, which does in fact include getting concessions from the Democrats including withholding support. Sounds great.

If it's done strategically with the aim of better outcomes for Gaza, then fuckin fantastic. If it's done with a strategy which sort of seems accidentally like maybe it may produce mostly bad electoral outcomes for the Democrats, and not much in the way of good outcomes for Palestinians, then I don't like it.

It's fair that you asked the question you asked. Now that I've explained a little, though, does that make sense? I can't see how it can be a confusing point of view or anything you want to say literally anything to aside from "yes I can agree with that."

Here's Nader talking about good ways to do it. Fuckin fantastic.

Somewhere in my history is (supposedly; it's impossible to know for sure) a Palestinian laying out in extremely passionate detail how disgusted he is with people who are using his dying countrymen to make a bad-faith political argument to try to get the guy elected who will endanger, not just his family still back home, but also his friends and family here, in the US, here and now. I looked for it a little bit but couldn't find it. If you want to hear, I'm happy to dig it up.

I like how organized North and Central America are

What Kurds

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(I know about it. I'm making a dark joke.)

These polls. Run it back to January and tell me which poll has someone other than Biden or Harris leading. There is one! I'll wait for you to find it and tell me who it was that won it.

There were some others, that weren't focused on the "democratic primary" category. I'll also wait for you to find one, and tell me which one has someone other than Biden / Harris winning, and who it was.

This is domestic abuse logic

"I have decided to do X, which outcome will be catastrophic, if you do Y. So therefore, if you do Y, it's going to become your fault what will happen."

If you wanna push the Democrats to better outcomes on Gaza, sounds fuckin great. I definitely think that the activism so far has woken them up + it's clearly better than just the only voice they hear that has any teeth being the Israel lobby. But don't play games with the placement of responsibility.

Did I send you the Ralph Nader interview where he talks about how to apply this principle (specifically to the Democrats, I think specifically as pertains to Gaza) productively instead of terroristically?

Most people saw an increase in their rent and groceries of 50-100% since 2019

I've reported this as misinformation after the discussion in !news@lemmy.world

Are the people who earned $7 in 2019 making a $10-14 minimum today?

People who earned $7 in 2019 are currently, on average, making $9.24 - an increase that comfortably exceeded inflation. If you want to say we need to do way more because that amount of income is still a fucking crime, then that sounds good. If you want to say we need to get rid of the team that achieved that $2.24 increase, instead of seeing what they will do with another 4 years and even if the alternative is to bring it back down to $7, then I have some questions

groceries go up 150-200%

I've reported this as misinformation, after the discussion in !news@lemmy.world

3-4 better candidates

Who are these people and why do you say better? Kamala Harris polled better than literally any other person including Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsome, etc etc all the people who are usually presented as other options.

You said 40% of the city budget. It's 17% of the city budget. Don't throw out random numbers that are distorted into the shape of the reality you would like to perceive.

Other PDs are doing far far less, more likely nothing.

Your assertion is that Uvalde is at the leading cutting edge of the best departments in the country?

You need to read the fact check you sent me. It explains that the actual number is much lower.

In actual reality the police almost never investigate themselves.

In some departments, that's true. I am proposing that fixing that is a high priority. I think it's been reformed to a pretty substantial degree already, though -- most of these conversations about cops doing something fucked up, in the modern day, come alongside them getting charges because of the fucked up thing that they did.

That didn't used to be true, and more is needed, yes, but the old days where it would never happen are definitely not true anymore.

Hm

I can try it -- I generally don't do reports; I actually don't even know if reports from mbin will go over properly to Lemmy.

For me it's more of a vibe than a set of 100 specific rules. The moderation on political Lemmy feels to me like "you have to be nice to people, but you can argue maliciously or be dishonest if you want, that's all good." Maybe I am wrong in that though. I would definitely prefer that the vibe be "you can be kind of a jerk, but you need to be honest about where you're coming from and argue in good faith, and we'll be vigorous about keeping you out if you're not." But maybe it's fair to ask that I try to file some reports under that philosophy before I assume that they wouldn't be acted on.

Please God no

Edit: Ooooh, yeah putting the rating outside the spoiler tag sounds great. I thought they were talking about taking away the spoiler tag. My bad.