I didn’t interpret your argument as right wing - I interpreted it as based on emotion and anecdote and overt rejection of analytical thinking, and packaged up in this forceful presentation that would be perfectly at home in a campaign commercial. I can see the end where the lady looks right at the camera and says, “Well let me tell you something, Joe Biden. Me and my family are hurting. And this November, we’re going to let you know exactly what we think of all your facts and figures about how things are oh-so-good off in Washington.”
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He has to pay a price. Washington should embolden Turkish opposition leaders to be able to take on and defeat Erdogan.
Oh shit that was an inside thought, not a lay out to the press what we’re planning to do type thought.
Not by a coup, not by a coup, but by the electoral process.
Whew. Saved it. That was a close one.
failure to govern
I have a new one for the bulleted list that usually just goes over reductions in CO2 emissions, growth in wages for working people even outpacing historic inflation that wasn’t Biden’s doing, etc etc the normal stuff that represents a big upward departure from the norm for US presidents.
- He fired the guy who used to run the NLRB, and put in a bunch of actually pro-labor people, who gave lots of material support to all this union activity that coincidentally has been meeting with all sorts of success over the last couple of years.
The listed excerpts are actually quite tame compared to what the actual plan is.
slashing U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) funding, dismantling the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security
invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807 to deploy the military for domestic law enforcement and directing the DOJ to pursue Trump adversaries
create a federally funded "American Academy" that would deliver online courses and grant free degrees that excluded "wokeness or jihadism". The plan would also be funded by taxing the endowments of major universities
every state report exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother's state of residence, and by what method
I stopped looking, not because there was any shortage of further crazy shit. There’s plenty more.
I have no idea at all why Hillary is anywhere high up on that list. Carter being at the top is surprising in a good way; Hillary being high up is surprising in a very disquieting way.
My best guess is that it's either people who read a lot of newspapers, or people who really are falling victim to the "well the Democrats aren't great but they're not total monsters like the Republicans so I like them now" Stockholm Syndrome that the shills like to say is responsible for people's support of Biden.
It's such a goddamned shame
He is still to this day more popular than either Biden or Trump. The list is actually pretty fascinating stuff.
And all the people who said Bernie was clearly too crazy to mount a serious campaign are now telling Biden how to run his campaign
Biden fired the guy who used to run the NLRB, and put in a bunch of actually pro-labor people. The guy Biden fired was the same guy who broke the air traffic controllers' strike way way back at the beginning of this round of great robberfication of the country.
And look! Putting pro labor people in charge of the labor agency worked out pretty well. Biden gave a huge amount of material support that enabled a lot of the recently-unprecedented success that people who've been fighting for labor gains have been achieving in the last year or two.
I was thinking that they come out of literally the exact same how-can-we-produce-the-public-impact-we-want factories
I have no real evidence or basis for saying that, it's just what I think
I noticed that similarity, too. And I'm sure you have a fairly good idea of what is the ultimate source where those right-wingers on Facebook picked up a lot of their arguments from? And why the arguments tend to be very emotionally persuasive even though they're wrong?
Hm... I actually 1,000% agree with you on this part:
Its a kind of circular straw man where you engage in a moral panic, some one speaks out in defense, then you project the arguments you want them to have made onto them.
I don't think I see this discussed nearly enough -- Sometimes the left picks up some strawman the right has come up with and actually runs with it, which I'm sure delights the right. It's a common enough pattern to have a big impact and I basically never see it discussed, so yeah.
Whats interesting is that they associate the 'brahmin left' with issues that I largely associate with RW issues projection (moral panic over transrights/ dont say gay/ book banning/ immigrant crime/ border crisis/ you fucking name it).
Did they list all these things? I thought it was just trans rights and "defund the police" mostly. I could have missed it?
I think the author is talking about more of performative leftist stuff. "I put my pronouns on my Starbucks nametag but I have no appetite for starting a union there" style of left that I would also be critical of. But, on the other hand, police reform is a grey area arguably in the core leftist category and the author puts it in the "Brahmin left" category... so yeah, maybe you're right, and the author is throwing out some stuff that shouldn't be thrown out (even if it would tactically a "good idea" for appealing to not-politically-conservative-but-not-real-leftist working-class voters.)
I'm insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens, and actively rejects someone who wants to talk about the numerical aspect as "talking down" to them. I feel comfortable insulting that way of being because to me it's very wrong. It's not done out of hatred or anything for someone who does that, but they are making a mistake yes, and it's a deceptively infectious mistake in a way that makes it worthwhile to call out. In my opinion.
How much are you scared about Trump being in office that you will bash people for criticizing democrats?
Pretty sure I posted an excerpt elsewhere in this thread that was highly critical of most Democrats' strategy, and earlier today I posted a video of Biden fucking up the response to a question about "anti-Semitic" protestors, and briefly talked about how he fucked it up and why. Criticizing Biden or Democrats I think is great. If I think the criticism is wrong (or particularly if I think the pattern of thinking behind it is wrong) then I'll "bash" the person doing it, yes.
This is a fascinating little construction that I’m just gonna let speak for itself
Are you under the impression, also, that we should measure vaccine effectiveness by asking people whether they feel optimistic that their vaccine is working?
There’s a fascinating little window into the flaws of this type of analysis, to be had in that the same people who report the nation’s economy doing badly, also report by quite a large margin the incorrect idea that their own state and their own family are doing much better than the nation as a whole. So they’re doing okay, but they’re still convinced that the nation as a whole is fucked and Biden’s definitely responsible.